• Panda (he/him)@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    See, his mistake was not killing him during a Career Day at an elementary school. If he took out kids as well, he wouldn’t get a terrorism charge.

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    CEO’s: Second degree murder is the highest you can charge him with for killing a CEO in NY? But we want to torture him and make an example of him so the proles don’t get uppity!

    DA: No problem sirs, we can make that happen.

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    Is there any chance that the terrorism charge is so ridiculous that it actually strengthens Luigi’s case and makes his defense better?

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      Yes because it specifically allows examining his motive from a political angle which allows the defense to question the character of the guy he shot, which increases the chance of nullification.

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      who knows at this point. you should ask all the other Americans who were charged with terrorism when they get out of jail.

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      Man, if the fact that Luigi, the smiling man, and the actual shooter are visibly three different people isn’t enough of a defense, nothing is. The ruling class wants to see someone punished for this crime, and rule of law bends to their will. He will be sentenced to life in prison or death by the end of this month, mark my words.

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      The degree to which the jury pool is going to be stacked with people tied to the finance and insurance industry is going to send eyebrows through the ceiling.

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        True, even though it’s supposed to be a jury of the defendant’s peers, not a jury of the victim’s peers.

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          The concept of a “peer” has been fast and loose for a long time. All-white upper-class juries sentencing poor black men happens to this day.

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    How tf can killing a single person with a handgun be classified as terrorism?

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        Our most sacred 21st century nobility. Guess we’ll have to cut their taxes to show our deference

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        They used to be terrified a lot more often when history was closer to JFK, Mussolini, Lincoln, and the French Revolution. When the leaders really thought the punishment for bad leadership was their ass, they gave a shit more.

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      As long as the action terrorised a large enough group of people it’s terrorism, it’s just this time, the terrorised people are the rich cunts hiding in their mansions like the traitorous cowards they are.

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      Because they don’t like him.

      I mean Dylan fucking Roof shot dead 9 black people and they didn’t consider it terrorism.

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        Dylan Roof did get charged with hate crimes and was convicted on all 33 counts, leading to a death sentence. Stacking terrorism charges on top of that would have been pointless.

        Mangione, by contrast, is getting charged in a state without capital punishment. You need the terror charge to make this a First Degree Murder case. Otherwise he’s looking at parole after 15 years.

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          This sounds like a legal playbook for would-be assassins. Kill at the cost of 15 years with parole max

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      “They’re making us CEO’s afraid, terrified even, so he’s clearly a terrorist. The implication that the working class could actually fight back against the systemic oppression we inflict on them? That’s horrifying. We can’t allow them to believe they could ever fight back. Make an example of this person.”

      The rich assholes or something

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      They also don’t charge people who blow up abortion clinics with terrorism either. They haven’t since the 60s - 70s.

      If you look it up the courts have been petitioned several times to associate abortion clinic bombings with Christian terrorism but they keep refusing to call it what it is.

      After reading about that fiasco I have very little faith our government actually has a working definition of terrorism that doesn’t shift at their convenience.

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        Hardly shocking that the christofascist courts of America refuse to classify abortion clinic bombings as domestic terrorism.

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      Local militias are perfectly acceptable as per the second amendment, as long as they’re “well regulated”, whatever that means…

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        it means that it needs to be an actual maintained organization, not Jim bob and his buddies threatening anybody they don’t like. it’s also not a requirement, it’s only the reasoning provided.

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          Well, that’s when Jim Bob and his friends can get together and form a neighborhood watch group and suddenly it’s perfectly legal.