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    No, actually. I think it would unironically be better to get all your calories and nutrition from bread, cheese, and sausage than to have a diet consisting of any variety of high-sugar, ultra-processed food.

    Also breakfast is completely optional and its promotion as “the most important meal of the day” is a scam to sell more cereal, milk, and eggs. I will die on that hill.

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      My hill to die on is that breakfast is the only meal that you can work the calories off all day. Eat what you want for breakfast but have a lighter lunch and even lighter evening meal.

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        Well technically you’re burning the same number of calories regardless of the time of day they were consumed, and two meals per day is a lot easier to keep at 2000 calories (as a rule of thumb - different for everybody) than three meals per day.

        Personally I like to keep the digestive process dormant for as long as possible. Eating breakfast makes me hungrier throughout the day, so I end up snacking more than I otherwise would. I’ve never been a breakfast eater though so I’m pretty well wired not to break fast until lunch.

        Edit: also heavy foods require rest and digestion that I do not have time for most mornings

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      Also breakfast is completely optional

      Yes for some, no for others? When I was a kid I hated having breakfast. My stomach would feel weird if I ate within the first two or three hours of being awake. But now, I need something. Nothing heavy. Some toast and peanut butter is good enough. If not, I get sick to my stomach. I would assume I’m not the only one who is like this.

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        aha, hence why I said optional. If you want/need it, have it. If you don’t want or need it, it doesn’t actually harm you in any universally applicable way to just wait until lunch.

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    Oh yes the famous nation of Europe. An entire continent full of nations and different cultures been rendered down to the stereotypes of the occupants of a single city.

    Americans need to get out more.

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        imagine if someone is complaining about Americans, and interchangeably refering to Canadians/mexicans/Argentinians…

        You damn Americans, always saying sorry with your mate thermos, carnival music mariachis…

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          If they did it in a meme they posted in a community with shitpost in the name I can’t say I would pay it much mind or take any personal offense to it, no. That seems to be a uniquely European thing

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          Fuck heads already do because they say “America refers to all of Americas, not The United States.”

          But also, as a Californian I apologize a lot and listen to mariachi music. You know that states can be culturally as different as nations, right?

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            Thanks for clearly stating why the world makes fun of American stupidity

            You know that states can be culturally as different as nations, right?

            no. they are not, and you only say that, because you have no idea how different cultures can be. California and NY are still American, speak English, eat similar food, do similar sports… whatever difference between California and NY is nothing compared Spain and France.

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        Yeah let’s all just ignore the utter ignorance that this image demonstrates.

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    Is that a pack of Marlboro cigarettes? Every real European knows that a proper coffee & cigarettes breakfast requires Gauloises.

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    It’s actually a really healthy breakfast because coffee has a lot of physical health benefits and both coffee and a cigarette help against a mental breakdown when you wake up and realize how fucked the world is.

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      The world is so fucked no amount of coffee and cigarettes help anymore. Ketamine on the other hand…

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      Nicotine might help with short term anxiety symptoms, but addictions of all kinds tend to make anxiety worse overall and dependent on the addictive substance to not be anxious

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        Yes, that’s why you should never skip your cigarette with breakfast :)

        (I quit smoking luckily, I’m just joking around)

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          Sometimes I wish smoking wasn’t so bad for you.

          Nothing hit as good as smoking a cig after a stressful day at work and unwinding.

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            I wouldn’t even care about the health hazards at this point, given the future we’re all looking at, if smoking didn’t make you stink I’d start back today

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                Not physically addictive, no. The physical addiction to nicotine lasts 3-7 days, while caffeine is 7-14.

                It’s not the nicotine that has you truly hooked, it’s the habit. It’s the fact that it’s always on you and you can often hit it as much as you want.

                Back before shitty closed disposable systems became popular, people regularly dropped to 0 nicotine without any trouble besides some cravings for a few days (which were about the equivalent of caffeine withdrawals).

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                  Have you stopped smoking or drinking coffee? One is way harder, let me tell you. They are both habits, but nicotine is way more mentally pervasive.

                  You milage may vary but stopping smoking was way harder than coffee. For me, personally.

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                I’m way more addicted to vapes than cigarettes. Only reason I ever touch smokes is when I can’t afford a 30$ vape and can only swing 7$ for a pack to get by.

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                  Go with an open system and a bottle of eliquid. More of an upfront investment, but with a refillable system you can adjust your nicotine levels much easier, and it’s significantly cheaper in the long run.

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      Whilst you’re kind of joking (I hope!) on the health benefits, I would say that deriving some enjoyment from all manner of small pleasures is a pretty good way to keep one’s mental sanity.

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      This picture HAS to be AI. The cheese wheels are getting progressively smaller. 2 cups of wine. The sauce bowl is barely bigger than a grape ñ. That purple sausage? in the middle looks like a turd. The pickles in the edge are even smaller than the grapes. Sausage baked into pound cake for breakfast seems odd.

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        The cheese wheels are getting progressively smaller

        Different cheeses are different sizes. I’m no cheese master but I think it’s a comté, a brie, and a Camembert in order of size.

        2 cups of wine

        Two glasses for two people? You share a cheese plate. We aren’t selfish fat idiots in Europe.

        The sauce bowl is barely bigger than a grape

        What do you mean, its almost the size of all the grapes together? We don’t drown all our food in gallons of sauce like mad men. The food itself actually has taste opposed to whatever McD serves for breakfast.

        That purple sausage

        Look up a Saucisse Sèche d’Auvergne. They do look like that.

        The pickles in the edge are even smaller than the grapes.

        It’s cornichons. They are that small.

        Sausage baked into pound cake for breakfast seems odd

        It’s bread. Not cake. Bread and sausage is extremely common together. I’m not French and haven’t seen this variation but in and of itself this would be a stupid indicator of AI.

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          Independent of whether this is AI or not, this is how such plates look like. It’s sad if that is so far out of someone’s reality they have to call the AI card.

          No offense. I’m sending this from a place where a meal like this would unfortunately cost me at least 5 of my kidneys 🥹

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    On the “Europeans” side that’s at least 2 decades out of date.

    The expresso coffee part is still true in a good part of Europe, but pretty much everywhere in it nowadays only a small fraction of people smoke and even those who do can’t actually do it inside a coffee shop because they’re not allowed to smoke there anymore, which spoils a great deal of the enjoyment of having a morning coffee.

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      I live in Germany and work with Turks, Poles, Ukrainians, Romanians, a Greek and a Slovenian. This meme is accurate for all of us. Weekends are a different story of course but in my experience this is indeed the true business day continental breakfast.

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      Is it? I was just in London a couple months ago, the amount of people smoking and vaping there was honestly shocking.

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        I grew up in the 1980s and trust me it’s a microscopic fraction of what it used to be. You used to be able to cut blocks out of the air. If you sat at the back of a cinema you would be lucky if you were able to see the screen through all the haze. That’s all gone now.

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        As a fraction of the total it’s still a small percentage, unless things changed a lot in the 5 years since I moved out of there.

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      Yes, but not in the balkans. Went to Bosnia and was served an espresso and a cigarette as an addition to breakfast. It was even on the menu. I should mention that i only asked for a coffee.

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        It was a culture shock that you can smoke indoors there, especially since I hate smoking.

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      While we’re shitting on breakfast culture in Europe I think that Italians have the worst. They have messed up daily rhythm (siesta and then dinner late in the evening)… Actually no, that’s not an excuse. They have garbage breakfast culture, period.

      Literally everyone else’s breakfasts are awesome.

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            Scrambled eggs or pancakes are the limit of the imagination I’ve seen from Italian restaurants. But most places have pastry or some variation of a sandwich that’s going to be mostly bread.

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            Stayed in Rome and Florence for a week. The only breakfast stuff we found were indeed either sweet pastries or biscuits, accompanied by fruit and cheese.

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        Siesta is barely a thing in Italy any more unless you’re like 70+ and rural lol. But a brioche stuffed with ice-cream is the king of breakfasts what are you on about

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          Granted, I know Italy only from a tourist perspective.

          Every damn restaurant closes in the summer in the middle of the day. So do many shops.

          Italy rarely have breakfast restaurants - or at least what I’d consider a breakfast restaurant. Some variations of a premade ready to go sandwich ain’t it. And the good places ain’t open in the morning, but rather during brunch hours and serve brunch/lunch more than breakfast.

          brioche stuffed with ice-cream

          I know you’re joking. You’re kidding, right? :)

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            Sicilian ice cream sandwiches are a real thing and they are basically the best thing that’s ever happened to breakfast cuisine

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        1. Siesta is NOT Italian

        2. what do you mean “garbage breakfast”? Tell me what do you think most of Italians eat at breakfast

        3. Dinner late in the evening is not on the entire penisula

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    To be fair, cigarettes and coffee are probably healtier than all those foodproduct items on the left.

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      Junk food is bad? Yeah, sure. Cigarettes are healthier than junk food? No way. Either you’re a guerilla cigarette advertisement or you’ve gone off the deep end.

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        Either you’re a guerilla cigarette advertisement or you’ve gone off the deep end.

        There’s also the third possibility of making a joke …

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          My comment was so serious, one could say it was super serious.

          sips a cigarrette and take a drag off coffee

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          Fair I suppose, though it doesn’t come across well online, especially given the fact that it lines up with the rhetoric cigarette companies have been trying to push for decades

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            Ask your Doctor if c/lemmyshitpost is right for you! Side affects may include absurdity, nausea, diarrhea and gastrointestinal distress.

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              Yeah, lemmyshitpost, not lemmyshitcomment. Besides, since when is parroting nicotine propaganda considered shitposting?

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                  Because as someone who watched his grandfather suffer for ten years from COPD and chronic bronchitis brought on by smoking and who suffers from constant struggles to breathe due to a lifetime of secondhand smoke, I don’t find actual fucking nicotine propaganda to be funny.

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        I still think you have better odds living longer with the coffee and cigs. I’ve seen far more elderly smokers than elderly fatsos.

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          I’ve seen far more elderly smokers than elderly fatsos

          How is that relevant? Junk food doesn’t make you fat

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      The burger is definitely healthier than the cigarette.

      Coffee for the win though… all those complex alkaloids and polyphenols…

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        I found that to be the weirdest incorrect assumption. I bought a zippo during my time in the navy, they don’t work well in windy conditions certainly not much better than regular gas lighters. What does work better are storm lighters, those with high pressure flame

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          I’ve definitely had better luck with them, although it depends on how windy and rainy it is. If it was so bad that a cigarette was going to be soaked before I got it lit, then nothing was going to work. Plus, you also have cold temperature performance; liquid fuels (for lighters) will continue to work in exceptionally cold weather, while butane lighters tend to not.

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        Agree. I bought one to go on trek, but you need to refuel it every week. Maybe 2 weeks if you tight it in inner tube. I ended up buying a storm lighter instead. I put it in my underpant when it’s too cold, to avoid gas liquify 😂.

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          I was also pretty disappointed when i found out Zippo’s drain themselves passively in 1-3 weeks. I thought I was getting the best version of a lighter… :(

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        Zippos are really only around still because of aesthetic and cool factor and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

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      Zippo sucks. If you don’t wear it on your body, it will be too cold and won’t work. And if you leave it lying around for some time, the gas will evaporate and it’ll be empty when you want to use it

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    This is also the reason why Metamucil doesn’t sell in Europe. Seriously: just looking at the left picture gives me constipation.

    (I understand that the pic is a joke, but anyone who has a coffee and a fag after breakfast can attest to their wonderful laxative powers.)

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    Lived in Europe my whole life and never seen anyone pair coffee and cigarettes as part of their breakfast

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      I know it as Greek Breakfast.

      It can be enjoyed anywhere or any time, but it’s best served on a balcony in underwear. Greece happens to be a good place to get it in the morning all year round.

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          I smoked coffee on a field trip to Quebec in the 8th grade. I somehow was able to buy a bowl, and we had nothing to smoke so put coffee in it and put it up in our hotel room. Set off smoke detector. Broke the coffee pot. It was a real mess.

          The eighth grade French classes no longer take field trips to Quebec. This was only a small reason why. Co-ed 13 and 14-year-olds on six hour bus rides, two nights in hotels essentially unsupervised. This was the 2000-2001 school year. What a time to be alive.

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      In my experience that very much depends on the part of Europe you’re in: the “expresso in the morning” thing is mostly common in Southern Europe and France and back in the day when smoking was much more common and was actually allowed indoors in public venues, people having a ciggy and a morning coffee at a cafe was a pretty common sight.

      Places in Europe without the whole tradition of coffee places serving expressos never really had this kind of “breakfast”.

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      Then you have clearly done something wrong, just this morning as I stepped out the train at 5 there was a guy with blue collar clothes, cigarette + energy drink. Fast forward one hour and saw a construction worker with a large coffee, cigarette and croissant. This was in rural Switzerland, but I think its even more common in the cities.

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        Not sure it’s wrong to be surrounded by healthy people. Maybe it’s just older generations doing that