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    I went to a coffee shop yesterday thag tried to tell me they only accepted orders through their app. I almost walked out, until the finally poured my coffee, but continued to give me shit about it, “ok but next time you have to use the app”

    “Yea no. There will be no next time.”

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        No, even QR I can only accept as an option, as in completely optional. I’m out and about without a phone quite frequently.

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          I have my phone on me all the time. Still no way im using an app to order. The screens I can tolerate at fastfood joints because it gives me time to decide.

          But if you can’t be bothered to come to my table to ask what I want at a real restaurant, I can’t be bothered to go to your > resturant.

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            OP said coffee shop so I’m presuming it’s not a real restaurant, and the app would facilitate ordering without queueing. Which I like. But I don’t wanna download an app, I want to just sit down, scan a QR and pay with one of the cards stored in my phone. And obviously cash should still be a backup option. I can see why they might want to do away with card terminals though.

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              True. I would put coffee shops in group with the fasfodd joints. There’s wasn’t really much service to begin with. But it should always be possible to order by a real person.

              I wonder if it isn’t actually illegal to deny personal service for accessibility reasons.

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                Honestly, no idea. Laws vary so much by jurisdiction anyway.

                Tbh I agree that there should be an in-person option always. If for no other reason then just to be able to pay in cash. Just make sure to let people know it’s not the most convenient option but it’s available.

                I’m not entirely sure what the point of the app is though, compared to a website with payment options. Lots of people will say tracking, but you can get a lot of info through a browser too.

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        No. Not even that, that’s just shit and the site brings a plethora of formatting issues and accessibility issues.

        Just give me a fucking paper menu.

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          Paper menu has accessibility issues too. You have to stand up and go to the counter, for one. You have to talk to someone.

          For different reasons, physical or mental, those aren’t great for a lot of people.

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      Luckin Coffee, the extremely successful Chinese competitor to Starbucks exclusively operates via their app. Sadly, users prefer it because of all the discounts and coupons it offers. So really, just surveillance capitalism as usual.

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    I used a normal wired phone the other day.

    I picked it up and called people.

    It blew my mind.

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      what the fuck is your mobile phone like? i just click the calls app and click the contact and bam i call the person

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        No you don’t understand, you can’t do that anymore. Because um, everything is actually really bad and enshittified. Wait you bought a not-smart TV to avoid the wifi and ads and such? Um yeah you can’t do that… same with kitchen appliances and everything else. You HAVE to get the wifi version so you can complain online.

        I had to watch a 45 minute ad to post this

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          To be fair, I just bought a smart tv that has never touched the internet and doesn’t give me any problems. No prompts, no ads, just goes to my Apple TV and my steam deck.

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            Well see I don’t think that’s accurate, if you bought a TV in the last 50 years it only displays content if connected to WiFi and the only servers it connects to are Google AdSense servers. It is known.

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        click the calls app and click the contact

        Two things you don’t have to do on a dedicated phone. I bet you had to unlock your phone first, too.

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          on a dedicated phone you had dedicated phone. No call history, no phonebook, no call log. So yes, it is technically more taps to get to the dialing stage. But it’s faster overall

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        The government uninstalled my phone app and punished me to only receive calls from spammers and old people.

        I don’t notice much of a change on the last part.

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    I rented a car, a Mercedes B class or something

    Everytime I started it, it would ask me to sign up for some bullshit Mercedes service Half the features of the car were disabled due to requiring subscriptions

    I will NEVER buy that car nor rent it ever again

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      It is incredibly difficult for me to describe just how powerful a Linux desktop experience can be. You can buy a cheap computer that suports emulation and put QubesOS on it. Bonus points to putting a GPU in it and playing on either Windows or Linux with that GPU.

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        I don’t think Linux people entirely understand just how uninviting the prospect of messing around with an operating system is for the vast majority of the public.

        As bad as Windows is, and it is it getting worse by the minute, it honestly does just work. I dual boot my computer, mostly into Linux everyday and even now I occasionally come across problems that don’t exist on the Windows side. The community need give up with this idea that Linux doesn’t have major usability issues.

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          I don’t think Linux people entirely understand just how uninviting the prospect of messing around with an operating system is for the vast majority of the public.

          The point is that you can, not that you have to. My system is very customized. A few years ago when I had to work with Windows I used it with ConsoleZ (middle click paste!!!11), Kate (KDE4Win) & Dolphin (KDE4Win; explorer didn’t support tabs), that also wasn’t the most stable experience one could wish for. I would’ve used a tiling manager if such a thing would’ve existed, but there are some things you just can’t have on Windows. Everything works fine and stable when you use the standard stuff (for Windows that would be Explorer, MS Office, Outlook, Edge, Visual Studio, etc), but I’d expect the same from stuff like Ubuntu without third-party repos and no manually installed stuff. And even more if you just use GNOME/KDE with their standard software.

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          I may be in the minority here, but I absolutely know how to rock every corner of a modern Linux setup and I avoid OS-tinkering at home like the plague. I have better things to spend my time on, so the bar for user-friendly computerized things in my home is incredibly high. In fact, to circle back to OP’s point, such things have to “just work”, be secure by default, and require minimal hacking and tinkering to function reliably.

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          My experience is pretty limited and I might just be lucky in that everything worked for me, but installing linux was exactly as hard as installing windows. If anything, I found it less annoying because with Windows I tend to decline a lot of their services (no cloud, no office, etc) and I profoundly resent being nagged by MS to use services that don’t interest me.

          If I bought my laptop with linux preinstalled, I wouldn’t say that it has been less usable than a windows machine. there is some missing support, but I had similar issues with switching from mac to windows and back.

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          I am not a power user, but I’m ok. I got sick of Windows BS, so when I got my Framework 13, I installed PopOS. I haven’t had to do anything to get things to work. It’s been fantastic.

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          Yeah it’s funny. Post about stuff just working out of the box.

          First reply: Open source. Downgrade. So… Do exactly what the post is raging about.

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            There are many advantages to open source software and a lot of it does actually just work. Linux isn’t one of them though.

            To be fair that’s because an operating system is far more complicated than most open source projects which tend to be applications.

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          The fuck are you doing, that you need to mess with the OS?

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              Not to mention all the dependencies for everything, I’ve gone multiple layers deep trying to install dependencies for the dependencies just to use a single module. Tbf I’ve mostly used Linux for bioinformatics so perhaps the problem for me is biologists creating software for other biologists and none are truly computer scientists (including myself)

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                It very much depends on the build of Linux you’re getting but there’s definitely quite a lot of builds out there that were designed for enthusiasts, where after you’ve installed it you have to spend the next several hours configuring everything. Your average computer user has very limited patience for this assuming they’re prepared to even do it at all.

                I bet that 99% of people don’t even really know how you would go about installing a new operating system. It’s not exactly intuitive.

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    I helped my dad install a new dumb thermostat last winter. We just had to drill a couple of new holes to mount it, and moved the wires over. Boom,there was heat again. I thought about how much of a pain in the ass it was to get my Ecobee working, and how refreshing it was to just have something work immediately.

    It’s a very similar feeling to playing my GameBoy Color again after messing around with retro gaming linux handhelds. You just turn it on and play, then just turn it off. No boot sequences, no emulator settings to tweak. No SD card corruption that ruins your game library. Just on and off.

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      No boot sequences

      (being annoyingly pedantic) technically there is a boot sequence: the Gameboy logo. on the DMG there’s a little blob of code from 0x0000 to 0x00ff that clears some memory, sets up the screen, reads the logo from cartridge memory and scrolls it. the loader only jumps to the game if the logo is byte-identical (the idea being that unlicensed games could be sued for trademark infringement.)

      on the GBC the loader is a little beefier but mostly the same.

      t. made a horribly broken FPGA core for the DMG that got just far enough to load the Tetris intro

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        Yes, but that’s pretty miniscule compared to booting any of the linux based retro handhelds. An Bernice, Powkiddy, R36S, they all have like a 30-40 second boot time.

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          Just booted my R36S. 21 seconds to be on the title screen of a game, Gameboy is apx 4 seconds. I was just curious so I thought I’d share.

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      it’s the reason why the original Odroid Go it’s so special to me… it’s all built around an ESP32 microcontroller and it does emulate only NES, GB, GBC and a couple more, while honestly not even being perfect at it, but goddamn… it boots in like 1 second, even directly to the last game you were playing, it has no settings whatsoever, the battery lasts for like 7 hours it’s such a neat little device.

      and it’s funny because in my head that it’s the device that kickstarted this whole retro handheld emulation craze, but it is the only one to take such a minimalistic approach

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      It’s not comparable. Nintendo must have spent millions on developing the Game Boy, meanwhile retro handheld is a hobby project someone did over the quarter. Ever try to port and run an RTOS on those ARM chips? And port a mainstream Game Boy emulator to it? “What do you mean you have to have MMU support?Just work, damnit?”

      It doesn’t work like that.

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        It’s completely comparable in this circumstance. They are performing similar functions, playing handheld games. My R36S is a pretty impressive little device, and it performs excellently at playing games. But using it is much more complicated and longer than popping a game in a gameboy.

        Gameboy: insert game, turn on, play, turn off. R36S: turn on, 30-40 second boot time, locate game, play, exit emulator, shut down, 10 second shutdown time.

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          Sir, I sincerely think you missed the point. Somebody, that nobody who only knows just enough programming, spent three months (at most) in his basement, putting together a embedded Linux and integrated emulators in a portable computer, cannot be compared with a video game company’s officially released commercial product. The money, the time, the effort, the equipment, the testing, not one is in the same magnitude.

          Sponsor a group of enthusiasts who have the right skill to live for a year, they can replicate Game Boy with modern hardware too, 100% identical or even better. Consumers like us who only paid $20 for the retro handheld emulator? We don’t have a right to complain about the performance and quality.

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    What fantasy world are you living in? How could my glass hold water if I didn’t sign up for a service that sends me spam? How could my table hold a book if I didn’t sign up for the monthly subscription that prevents it from ejecting books into the air? Even my cat came with a ToS that said that by petting her, I give her access to my bank account and first born child. Hasn’t it always been this way?

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    Shit either has no buttons, with an capacitive touch surface, or if it has buttons, it’s never immediate response, you have to press it for an extended amount of time.

    it’s fucking infuriating.

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      Yes long press needs to be relegated to the most obscure functions of a device, not the main uses.

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      You just described my Chevy Volt so accurately. All the buttons are touch surface except the parking brake switch, and I usually have to pull that twice.

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    It used to be that when i got a new video game for Christmas, i could just put it into the GameCube/PS2 and play it. No need to wait for everyone to also try and download the 40gb update that morning.

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    My poor tv is like, “connect to the internet? I need to call home! Help, i’ve been abducted by a luddite!”

    Tv, you are never getting my wifi password.

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    I’m road tripping through northern Europe. Staying at Airbnbs and every fucking tv is a smart tv and not one can I pick up a remote and start surfing channels. And if I find tv most of them are slow to react. So it’s press ch+ wait 5 seconds on black screen see that it’s in a language I don’t know and press again.

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      I carry a Fire TV stick with me that accesses my Jellyfin server. Just connect it to the internet and you’re good to go.

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      Do people under 60 still have flow TV? Why would you sit though a bunch of commercials to let other people decide what you are going to watch?

      Streaming is becoming shit but for now it’s still better than flow TV.

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    I love some connected devices, and own a LOT of them, but some things are just stupid. I don’t need my blender to be connected. Washer, dryer? Unless it’s going to move my laundry from one to the other, nope. Stove, wtf? I have to go stir anyway so who gives a crap.

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      I like my washer and dryer being connected. I can load it in the evening a set my Home Assistant to start it when the price on power is low.

      The other things I agree with

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        I would like em too, but only if they allowed local only without any accounts beforehand.

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        how often is your electricity provider changing rate timing?

        this could easily be done on the device itself with a timer/schedule