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    I’ve used rif and old.reddit respectively for so long that I really had no idea how much of a shitshow the ui had turned in too until I checked it out through the official app and new layout style in browser.

    No fucking thank you, take your glitter shit and constant ad pushing and jump off a cliff.

    The first ad that popped was a promoted post for machine gun kelly. I listen to grindcore, crossover, metal, etc… That sealed its fate in my eyes.

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      for years companies have been trying for “targeted ads” but in rare occasions I see ads, they’re terribly off the mark, like you have mentioned

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        Companies have been trying and succeeding with targeted ads*

        There’s a reason a bunch of the biggest tech companies in the world’s main revenue is these ads, they absolutely work unfortunately.

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      I actually prefer when the ads are targeted but wrong. It shows me they don’t know me as well as they could. Also if I’m not interested they aren’t distracting

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        I used the official app but I have ADHD, which is basically targeted ad kryptonite. By the time they target something to me, I’ve moved on.

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      Same here. I’ve been using old.reddit with RES and apollo for so long that I forgot reddit even had ads until I tried the official app.

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      Yeah. I don’t mind ads if I’m getting content for free, but at least know your audience. I feel like especially the hegetsus spam was wildly misplaced on Reddit.

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      There was some kind of cookie consent popup on old.reddit.com and it said “go to the new reddit to set preferences” or something like that and i clicked it without reading properly and got sent to new reddit.

      What a shit website… I will never use new reddit. Get fucked spez

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      I don’t even think most of their ads gets interacted often. The small amount of people who are using the official reddit app probably have gotten used to it now so will just wait this blackout out.

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        I think more people use the official app than you might think. I initially thought everyone was in unanimous outrage, but many just don’t care. I don’t understand how some people know about ad-free third party apps and still use the official one.

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          I used official app only because I had no idea the other apps existed until this month, lol

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          Convenience. For the average user it’s just download from the play store and scroll. I agree that lot of people use the official app but they’re used to the ads from other social media apps too probably.

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            I mean… I downloaded a third party app from the play store. Isn’t that how you got yours too??

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              I mean yes, you can get third party apps on the Play Store (I got mine off F-Droid but that’s besides the point), but for most people, if they want to install “Reddit” on their phone, they’re gonna search for “Reddit,” and then when the first thing that pops up is the official app, they’ll install that, and never think twice about it.

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                Well my proposal for lemmy is to have jerboa apply a post signature. Like “posted using Jerboa”

                So that people would start askin and be curious and then become aware that there are other apps to view the site

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          Because I was already using it since it first came out, and honestly the ads weren’t/aren’t even that big of a deal. I don’t even notice them 90% of the time.

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        Using the official app for a given site/service is usually a good heuristic. Just not in this case, IMO.

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      Not related at all, but hear me out…lemmy needs a grind/extreme music community

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    I hope the major subs stay dark. The only thing keeping reddit afloat is moderators. Without tools the mods would need full time paid positions which is never going to happen. I’d like to see them all burn. Its become a shit show of adds and bots now anyway. Good riddance. I wish someone would incorporate freenets web of trust system to some type of decentralized app like this.

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      Could they not replace the mods? In the end, don’t they own the subreddits? Who owns the intellectual property?

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            Under EU GDPL they would have to erase everything upon request if they don’t want to get fined into oblivion.

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            Good to know. If it comes to that I will. Anyone who spends any amount of time adding to a community though is like killing your own creation. I did this for us.

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          Quality would absolutely drop. Even if whoever replaced the mods was just as enthusiastic, losing that much institutional knowledge/inertia would be devastating for a while.

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          They’d also need to find a ridiculous amount of people (~28,000 mods according to Reddark?). Or have fewer people be insanely overworked, either way you’re right; quality will drop.

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    Good to know that Reddit can be killed for an entire afternoon any time the community wants by coordinating the use of basic site functions.

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    The Verge article:

    “A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue,” spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells The Verge.

    So… According to Reddit the blackout is the culprit, I guess?

    So either it’s just an outage and they’re faulting the blackout, or the blackout is actually the culprit. Either way I hope this works. However, I’m still not going back to Reddit even if they fix and reverse everything.

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      Do not attribute to malice what can easily be explained by idiocy. It is entirely plausible that their algorithm couldn’t handle the most popular subreddits going dark all at once. They likely hard-relegated so many other subs that would appear on r/popular or r/all to lower priority and thus when the higher priority subs disappeared, it couldn’t change priorities and cause the crash.

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      I wonder if it’s bots or something trying to access the now dark subreddits. Essentially causing a DDOS.

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        well if i made a bot, hmm, yeah that could cause it lol. Like if i tell it “go in every 30 minutes & steal the top 20 posts”, and it’s down, i’d just say “retry till u get it, idc if u DoS that shit” and well if many ppl do it, it’s a free DDoS courtesy of robotland

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            if that’s what’s happening, i feel a sense of fellowship for those ppl who don’t give a shit and will ddos a website just to try and steal some memes, truly conoisseurs of 🅱️est 🅱️ractices 😎

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      When a major sub goes private, that’s an awful lot of posts and comments that they have to hide from the rest of the internet. I’m not surprised there’s some excess load on their systems with lots of them doing it at once.

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      That’s going to be the excuse, huh

      “We have a duty to keep the site running”

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        and when their plot is discovered

        “some sacrifices must be made, we killed it so we could keep it alive!”

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      u/Spez will just put the blame on Christian again (Apollo’s dev).

      But on a little more serious note, I doubt this is on purpose. This would look really bad for the credibility of the platform, there is a LOT of users that just want to keep doomscrolling Reddit and in all honesty don’t give a spez(fuck) about what’s going on with the protests.

      But… if this is on purpose…

      Strange decision to say the least.

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        u/Spez will just put the blame on Christian again (Apollo’s dev).

        100%… “malicious code in a 3rd party app led effectively to a DDOS attack on reddit… this is why we must close the API to only allow select approved apps”

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        This would look really bad for the credibility of the platform

        From what I’ve been following, they haven’t been too concerned about this since at least a few weeks ago

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          Outright telling active partners that they won’t help them identify inefficient interactions with the first-party API was a great look.

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            Yeah - in fairness, they weren’t getting paid to, but there are plenty of examples to pick from.

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          I know and agree with you on that.

          But for the majority of the userbase, one thing is to have some of their favorite subreddits joining a protest, the other is having their whole experience affected.

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      It just makes the blackout look more successful honestly. Pretty dumb of them but they haven’t been making great decisions lately.

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        I don’t know. My best bet is that it’s a happy coincidence for them. It’s probably just an actual accidental outage, but it can be spun in a few different ways. Given their push for an IPO, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is an excuse for lower traffic numbers. “Hey, look, these guys all went to protest but there was an outage. Nothing correlates the numbers. Now that we’re back up on XYZ date, everything is returning to normal! It was no big deal!”

        If it actually turns out to be something more nefarious, I can’t say I’d be surprised, but I sincerely hope that isn’t the case.

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          Given their push for an IPO, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is an excuse for lower traffic numbers. “Hey, look, these guys all went to protest but there was an outage. Nothing correlates the numbers. Now that we’re back up on XYZ date, everything is returning to normal! It was no big deal!”

          Boy, sure would be nice to live in a world where investors weren’t dumber than flat earthers.

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        The maintenance in this case is damage control. They spent the time deleting a hell of lot of comments from all over the place.

        They definitely don’t want their investors to know what’s happening.

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      that would be disgusting, but i would not be surprised at this point :/

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      Oh no! I hope they don’t do this indefinitely! It would totally defeat the purpose of them going dark in the first place… ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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      Would be the perfect time for critical server updates that require downtime anyway ;)

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      kek idk, i tried to go in to check which of my fave subs were private and it was ded, and i remembered “ah right i was supposed to not go in today” and closed the app. this happened a few times. i use it more as a reminder not to visit.

      reminder that most ppl leave in the first 3-5 seconds if a page doesn’t load fast enough, ppl have very short attention spans statistically. if it’s a “psyop” it’s a pretty bad one cuz they will lose a shitton of ad views this way.

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        5d chess friend, they’re operating on levels we can’t even comprehend. give me a few hours and I’ll think of some bullshit to explain it.

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          lmao

          “they ate cyanide and threw their servers into a river, how’s that an ad campaign?”

          “they wish their spirits to live on to be rich in the afterlife! people will consider them heroes and their families will be the wealthiest in the world! in fact, it was probably their family who made them do this, and also they’re probably not dead but in argentina running the Reddit Foundation to grab some condescention points to live well without paying taxes!”

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    i like how they said that the outage anticipated and expected yet, they didn’t prevent it only to try to fix it once it happened. totally healthy company behavior 👌