Must be nice to be able to have a tantrum in court, yell at the judge, and then just be able to walk out.
I encourage everyone to try it sometime.
I encourage everyone to try it sometime.
Do fries come with that Contempt?
Freedom to be in jail fries.
*jail depends on tax bracket
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He might be one of half a dozen people who could get away with that in a US federal court.
I wonder if Elon could get away with it.
Florida man tackled by bailiff?
Injustice Engoron says different rules for you plebs.
The judge is trying to prevent any pretext to getting the case thrown out on appeals. It’s bullshit but having all this hard work go up in smoke because a brainless judge higher up found a tiny fault in an unprecedented case would be horrid.
What a piece of shit system that cannot treat people equally… Fucking farce of a country.
While it’s very stark, I doubt you’ll find many countries treating their billionaires the same as their workers.
Having company doesn’t make it good or correct.
Did you miss the part where they are rich and connected thus better than us? /s
If The Invisible Hand has bestowed you with wealth, clearly you are blessed among men, and the priests in their robes give you deference for your holiness.
Who here said it was good or correct?
It’s the natural implication of downplaying the seriousness of something. Saying other countries suck too is not only what-about-ism, but is directly diluting the seriousness of the offense.
“Everybody does it” is classic children’s logic and a fallacy.
Jokes on us: like police do all the time, if a judge wants to “find” such a fault - maybe by citing precedence from a thousand years ago? - then they will. Ofc there is no reason to make it easy on them.
frankly, i’m shocked they haven’t tried to cite the Magna Carta yet.
Hrm, don’t start giving them any IDEAS now… :-P
If Trump launched his fatass onto the bench like that guy in Vegas Engoron would apologize to him.
Justice Engoron, in a plea to Trump’s attorney, Chris Kise, implored, “Mr. Kise, please control your client.” However, the attempt to rein in Trump proved futile as he continued his tirade, even bringing up the prosecutor’s alleged political motives, including what he called her “failed” run for Governor.
Should have charged him with contempt.
Then some asshole judge in East Bumblefuck will charge Biden with contempt, for reasons
So? If you let fear of fascist reprisal stop you from upholding the rule of law, then they’ve won.
Joe Biden isn’t on trial for anything.
You think that will stop them?
it might not stop them from trying
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So what?
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Biden is not on trial. This would be an apparently senile judge yelling at the wind.
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This happened in Illinois, some downstate dipshit judge was going to hold the governor in contempt because of emergency declarations during COVID times. It was a political stunt by this jackass named Daren Bailey who then ran for governor and lost. Him and this other dumbass named Dan Proft are funded by the Uihleins who own Uline and are constantly trying to cause problems.
Disobeyed Judges orders so hes gonna be held in contempt right? Were not going to keep reinforcing to this child that he doesn’t get any consequences right? . . . right? The US Justice system is doing this to itself, and every day it proves itself inadequate to contain this threat.
I agree that they’re doing it to themselves, but it’s not that it’s inadequate. It’s that they aren’t treating him like a mob boss. They are presuming he has a shred of human decency and isn’t a psychopathic narcissist ready to burn it all down out of pettiness and spite.
They’ve prosecuted mob bosses before, so they simply need to change their paradigm.
No, they’re treating him like the mob boss of a mob of millions of armed people ready to kill for him because that’s what he is.
So the threat of political violence has tangible results on the rules of justice? You know that only encourages more political violence right? It’s “Might makes right” with like one extra step. No one willing to die for Trump is going to care if he goes to jail now or next year they will do what they will do. But changing procedure because of them means their threats are working, which means the US Justice System, is not.
And you think there’s ever been a time where it wasn’t the case?
Threaten the judge presiding a case and their family and you’ll never get an impartial ruling.
Bring someone like Trump to court and you better make sure you take everything slow and make sure no one can question any of your decisions, not even his supporters.
Let it happen. If they couldn’t do it on Jan. 6th, they’re not going to be able to do shit now. They’re all goddamn cowards and anybody that commits violence in his name can get locked up right alongside him.
Better squash it now than let them know threats of violence get the intended result I say. Their response isn’t gonna change because the case is more bulletproof, they don’t believe in truth anyway.
That’s a very good point I’ve only just really let sink in. Trump not passing go and going directly to jail will mean chaos and collateral damage, perhaps globally. Things have to be done delicately for all our sakes unfortunately.
You don’t think that the current approach isn’t causing chaos? He literally forged documents to send imposters into the electoral college vote. His supporters stormed the capitol - beating and killing security personnel and in one case being shot dead by special services. I don’t think that jailing Trump will make these issues go away as they’re too ingrained already, but I do think a harder stance needs to be taken before there’s no more ground to stand on.
I do. He needs to go to jail eventually, or at least be made ineligible to run for office, or both. But if law enforcement locked him up tomorrow I think that could be immediately destabilizing of American society and the ensuing riots could cause massive loss of life and destruction, if not all out civil war, frankly. The cult of Trump is not insignificant. I live in New Zealand, and even here I encounter Trump pariahs all the time. We are living in very interesting times.
The asymmetry here is the most frustrating thing, but building things has always been harder than tearing them down. Dealing with Trump and the cult surrounding him, and the phenomena that actually made him possible in the first place (social media and the outrage and misinformation economy that has infected news media and the entire information space), is probably going to be the project that defines this decade, and that all other projects depend on for their success (like dealing with climate change). So it’s one that if we fail, could set us back to the early 1900s or worse in terms of global societal cohesion. I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic when I say this.
A normal person would’ve been tackled by the bailiff by now.
Baby Hands is such a snowflake
Snowflakes are actually cool. He’s a fucking chud.
A chudflake, if you will.
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snowflakes. so chill.
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Trump is such a pussy. Yes, I will judge anyone who still supports this weak, sad, mentally deranged man. People keep throwing around accusations of this and that is what is wrong with America, well, the fact that anyone even allows this traitor or anyone like him the time of day, is what is wrong with America.
Edit: I now realize the irony of the fact that it is important to know what is going on in the world, and to do that, we have to hear about all this stuff. Also, my comment is in no way directed at OP. Realizing how this may have come out towards OP made me realize the irony as well.
What really bothers me is if his supporters even hear of this at all it will be a wish fulfillment fantasy about telling your boss to go to hell when you rage quit your job (at an emotional level) and they will imagine Trump cooly dropping burn after burn on the judge before mic dropping, leaving everyone thinking Trump (who they have attached their ego to) is the coolest guy ever and the judge is a loser.
That’s what is really sad. That, and the fact that they get to vote.
You’re good, homie, no offense taken at all.
He should have been arrested, cuffed, and hauled off to be locked up like anyone else.
Instead everyone will continue to coddle him, emboldening his jackass followers as if this course is somehow favorable to consequences.
Why is this a thing?? I don’t get it. It’s so stupid. Anybody else would get their ass handed back to them but he’s the exception for some reason I can’t fathom. Like, even if he has a lot of followers, so what?
In this case, to give absolutely zero room for mistrial complaints that the judge was biased against him.
And guess what? He has zero room for complaints. The judge has handled this pretty much perfectly.
to give absolutely zero room for mistrial complaints
My man standing up on the desk, pulling down his pants, shitting all over the place, then waddling out with his pants around his ankles and the judge turns to the bailiff saying “No no no, let him do his thing, I don’t want to risk a mistrial”.
He has zero room for complaints.
He’s been indicted 91 times since he left office and we’ve yet to see any of them resolve into some kind of legal punishment. Everything is supposedly coming to a head between March and May of this year, but… In the middle of a heated election season, I’m not holding my breath on that shit getting deferred or extended or whatever.
And then if he makes it to November and wins (hardly unlikely, given the direction of the current polling) he’s back to being Unitary Executive and immune to prosecution. And then we’ll get four more years. And if the country doesn’t collapse on itself after that, we get to restart the whole process and hope another four years of pretending to indict a former President now pushing into his mid-80s will mean anything.
Guy is going to die of poor health long before he sees the inside of a jail cell. The US justice system simply is not built to punish people like him.
Why is he not sitting in a cell for contempt of court?
The judge is setting a bad precedent that is going to be used every single time he tries to hold anyone else in contempt ever again.
I’m not going to pretend that this is some grand strategy by Trump. He’s an immature man-child and that’s all there is to it.
But there most certainly is a strategy by his lawyers.
If their client somehow manages to make the judge “lose their cool” its fuel for an appeal/mistrial. So they really have no interest in ACTUALLY controlling his outbursts.
Isn’t it typical for a lawyer to be held in contempt for not following court rules? Will there be contempt proceedings near the end of the trial?
Did anyone expect something different? He is a big child that never learned the meaning of tbe word “No”. He simply cannot accept that someome sets real limits to his doings, so they must be wrong.
He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I can’t imagine why this isn’t called out more.
Everything the man does is perfectly predictable (note the date!) given that context.
He stormed out because he shit himself. Again. And was stinking up the courtroom. Again. If you watch the video, you see him holding his butt and waddling.
You’re gonna make me look it up myself?!
I would encourage you to just take my word for it, in this instance…
For real though, you got a link? I can only find clips
I was making an educated guess. I haven’t actually seen any footage. But it’s probably what I said.
Don’t be so hard on the guy. He just needed a diaper change. Happens all the time to babies.
Trump is terrible enough without making up blatant misinformation. That’s the sort of fuckery MAGA dipshits do; you should be better than that.
How have you seen a video? I can’t find one.
I was making an educated guess.
Basically fact ngl
Is there video of it? I didn’t see any in the article and usually video isn’t allowed in a courtroom no?
Call your Senators and Congressmen and tell them this shit is unacceptable. Call over and over until their aides are sick of hearing your voice. Even if you aren’t in the same party and you didn’t vote for them. Let every gov’t employee know enough is enough.
What the fuck is that supposed to accomplish? They don’t directly influence the judge. This comment makes no sense to me.
Call your Senators and Congressmen and tell them this shit is unacceptable.
Hello, Mr. Ted Cruz? I’d like to file a complaint abou… Oh, go fuck myself? No, that’s fair. I’ll just dial Mr Crenshaw and… Nope, it appears I’m being told that this phone call is uncivil and I can go fuck myself. Okay, well, you’ll be hearing from my vote in a heavily caged and gerrymandered set of districts.
Call over and over until their aides are sick of hearing your voice.
Daily screaming matches with some telemarketing company paid to handle their calls will do more harm to me than to any of them.
Why does this petulant child keep getting away with shit?
I hope they slap him with contempt again.
At this point I’d be happy if they just like literally slap him.
I hope this is used as precedent by so many people to have tantrums in court and walk the fuck out. and that all of legal history looks back on this judge for causing this with his desire to let trump do whatever the fuck he wants without significant, meaningful repercussion.
Unfortunately what happens in a situation like this in court is up to the judge to handle.
Trying to use this as a precedent on how you’re treated would be laughed at by other judge.
But… if you happen to have this judge, that would he very interesting to see.
Justice Engoron, in a plea to Trump’s attorney, Chris Kise, implored, “Mr. Kise, please control your client.” However, the attempt to rein in Trump proved futile as he continued his tirade, even bringing up the prosecutor’s alleged political motives, including what he called her “failed” run for Governor.
lmfao and the attorney will probably never get paid. God what those meetings must be like…
Kise has already been paid to the tune of $3M.
No attorneys will work for Donald Trump without a huge retainer up front.
Good attorneys will not work for him at all.
