Right-wing pollster Richard Baris acknowledged mainstream polls that show Vice President Kamala Harris leading former President Donald Trump by "unbelievable numbers."During a Monday appearance on the War Room podcast, Baris sought to downplay Harris' suggestion that she was an underdog in the presi...
  • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldEnglish
    991·
    2 months ago

    What a bullshit, clickbait headline. The actual story is at the end:

    Baris claimed that conservative polls showed that Trump was tied or had a “believable” edge against Harris.

    “And when you look at the track records of the pollsters in those two courts, right in those two camps, really, you know the ones who are showing the tighter race with Trump with an advantage, have better track records,” he insisted.

    He’s not saying her numbers are “unbelievable” as in, “holy shit that’s awesome!” He’s saying they’re literally unbelievable, as in, “I don’t believe that’s real.”

    • Rhaedas@fedia.io
      9·
      2 months ago

      Not quite a Karl Rove reaction, but similar. “These numbers can’t be right, it’s not the numbers we paid to get.”

    • Billiam@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 months ago

      “These results are so unbelievable, the Demonrats must have stolen the election from you! Now go riot peacefully make your voices heard while I stay far away from what you’re off to do!”

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
    70·
    2 months ago

    Problem: She’s not, she’s really really not. The EC race, you know, the only one that actually COUNTS, looks like it will be a squeaker.

    • Makeitstop@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      2 months ago

      She is ahead in the polls by a narrow margin in enough states to carry the electoral college. It’s still way too close, and we can’t take anything for granted. But the best available data says that if the election were held today, the odds of Harris winning are at least better than a coin toss.

        • Makeitstop@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          As of right now, 270 to win’s polling averages put Harris ahead of Trump in NV, PA, and WI by 1.6, 1.7, and 2.1 respectively. Those leads are small, but larger than Trump’s leads in NC or AZ which are at 0.8 and 1.0, and in a similar ballpark to GA’s 2.0 Trump lead.

          In MI, Harris has a lead of 4.2, which is better than Trump’s 4.0 lead in IA and just behind his 4.3 lead in FL

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          Still too close, especially given how unreliable polls can be, but it’s what we have to work with.

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
    50·
    2 months ago

    Electoral College is biased towards Trump (or any candidate popular in red states which get more representation per capita). These polls mean nothing.

    Vote vote vote.

  • EndOfLine@lemm.eeEnglish
    20·
    2 months ago

    Reading the article, it sounds more like Baris is making shit up to try and energize Trump voters.

    • Asafum@feddit.nl
      4·
      2 months ago

      And to set up the steal as “legitimate.”

      Whatever plan they decide to go with to steal the election they’ll point to instances like this to “prove” it was stolen from them. :/

  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    2 months ago

    “On the one side, you have the one school that is showing Harris with a lead but leading by unbelievable numbers, Peter,” he said. “That’s a fact, you know. […] And then really an edge that is not — is never going to materialize.” Baris claimed that conservative polls showed that Trump was tied or had a “believable” edge against Harris. “And when you look at the track records of the pollsters in those two courts, right in those two camps, really, you know the ones who are showing the tighter race with Trump with an advantage, have better track records,” he insisted.

    So when he says “that’s a fact”, he’s trying to say it’s a lie.

        • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          2 months ago

          well I appreciate the attempt to explain it.

          still can’t say I grok it. +0<1 just means plus nothing is less than 1 to me, which yeah, 0 is less than one… but I’m too slow or sick today to comprehend the significance it’s supposed to relate.

          it makes sense to you?

    • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      Is that seriously what they’re saying? Man they’re out of touch!

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    10·
    2 months ago

    “The entire world is against Donald Trump,” Baris told host Peter Navarro. “I mean, the idea that [Harris] is the underdog is ridiculous. Everyone from Fox News, the people who run Fox News to the people who run MSNBC want Harris to win, and even put their name to an endorsement for her.”

    I don’t trust anyone who says Fox News wants her to win. This person is either lying or delusional.

    • Rhaedas@fedia.io
      10·
      2 months ago

      Or convince Harris voters that it’s a done deal. It’s not done until all the votes are in. No matter what polls say.

  • thefartographer@lemm.ee
    81·
    2 months ago

    No she’s not. In fact, no one is voting for her. Absolutely no one.

    But if YOU vote for her, she just might win. You’re the only one whose vote you can control, so go vote.

  • randon31415@lemmy.world
    1·
    2 months ago

    MAGA pollster: “Harris is leading Trump by 50% in the end of September. Then in October, when Trump releases his October surprise, we can release a poll saying Trump is only down by 2%, showing he has the momentum. Then come November, we can release polls showing he was up 50% going into the vote and that proves [it was stolen from him/those numbers released by compromised Sec. of State are correct].”