• FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    That’s just a fact. The whole US political system should be scrapped and re-developed to make it a democracy.

    • Beaver [she/her]@lemmy.ca
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      You can fix the american democracy by upgrading it ranked choice voting, abolishing the electoral college, ending citizens united, giving all prisoners the right to vote, reforming the supreme court, make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states.

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        Eliminating the senate, massively increasing the size of the house, making registration automatic, executing anyone caught disenfranchising voters, etc

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          Eliminating the Senate might seem like a good way to reduce the outsized influence that voters in smaller states wield, but the Senate helps keep those states in the union.

          Also, the death penalty should be eliminated, not expanded.

          We obviously need to address the fact that our government doesn’t represent the country, but drastically increasing the ability of larger states to ride roughshod over the interests of smaller states is not a recipe for stability.

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              The absolutists are wild… Some people absolutely deserve to never have influence over someone else ever again. There are only so many ways to actually accomplish that…

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              Don’t kill. Killing is wrong. No, seriously, it is so so bad. Don’t even think about it, because if you kill, we will kill you right back buster!

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            the Senate helps keep those states in the union.

            In that case California should secede; we’ll be better represented that way.

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            The death penalty thing was said tongue in cheek. And we already settled the whole can you leave the union thing a little while back.

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            the Senate helps keep those states in the union.

            Oh, so we need the Senate to keep such valuable states as Alabama, Mississippi and Florida in the union?

            This is like arguing the need for the Senate filibuster, because of how important it was to such orators as Strom Thurmond and Richard Russell.

            I’m fine keeping the Senate on the condition that if you suppress voting for a senator, he can’t be seated.

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          … Introducing proportional representation and majority elected president, enfranchising all people, ending politically appointed judiciary, making intentional lies with the intention to mislead the public a criminal offence…

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            Nah, don’t tie provable intent to it. Just knowingly lie should be enough. If it’s not under national secrets or some other thing, lying SHOULD be illegal out of representatives. Always.

            They can always say, “no comment” if they feel the urge to lie.

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          Eliminating the Senate is not a good idea. Maybe just fix it by populating it in proportion to the states citizens?

          And do yourself a favor and finally abolish the death penalty. It does not become to a civilized country.

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              Have a look at the German system. They are also bicameral. Their primary house, the Bundestag, is like the US Congress. The secondary house, the Bundesrat, is representing the 16 German states. The votes the representatives there cast are bound to decisions of their State governments. So the state government decides yes or no on a question, and all representatives of that state are bound to that decision of their state.

              This way, the first chamber represents the overall interests if the people on a federal level, while the secondary chamber represets state interests.

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                Yeah, I don’t think the state governments in the deep south represent any of the interests of the citizens of the south, anymore than Vladimir Putin and his oligarchs represent the interests of the citizens of Russia.

                The deep south are just failed states we’ve let limp on since we lost the stomach for reconstruction and left them in the 19th century.

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      Remember that you enter a revolution with the culture you’ve got, not the culture you want. Think on that very carefully before you roll those dice.

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        You guys (Americans) need to stop with the personality cults. It was cute and funny when it was sports stars and actors, but it slipped down the slope when it’s dangerous malignant narcissists like Trump and Musk. The attitude is the same, though, stop glorifying other people so much, whether it’s on the left or right. No amount of democracy will fix that loophole for populists.

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        Do you have any idea how many rich and powerful people would dream of such power vacuums to take advantage of?

        This comment reads like it was written by the Koch foundation.

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      And exactly how peaceful do you think the scrapping of the entire system will be? Will you sign up for the inevitable fight? Or do you just like talking big?

      Anyone with a brain understands that would only bring further pain and death.

      /u/beaver gets what you don’t: https://lemmy.ca/comment/11298416