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    1 year ago

    Great, I see that Alternative Metal and Nu Metal are in the clear.

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    I love how the left is all genres of metal except at the end with the random inclusion of crust punk. You can tell the OOP really liked the genre and wanted to include it in his maymay

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    1 year ago

    Metal people are always like “nooo it’s not all annoying noise and throaty growling, you just have to listen to X” and then X is all annoying noise and throaty growling.

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      1 year ago

      Hold on a second!

      I mean if you don’t like metal then don’t listen to it but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres. Basically if you can think of sth there is probably a metal Version of it(idk why though)

      If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy

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        If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy

        Wtf, thanks for bringing this band into my life

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        but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres.

        That’s because every metal band suffers from the delusion that their sound is novel and genre defining, when more likely, it’s just a tiny variation on annoying noise and throaty growling.

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          I do understand that growling is the part that often splits opinions and I won’t act otherwise, but there’s quite a lot of metal songs/bands with no growling.

          I guess the conclusion that “metal is mostly just annoying noise and throaty growling” is related to what gets discussed online - in most cases the vocal part of metal fans are already in the deep end of the subgenres, so only the really heavy stuff gets mentioned. So I do understand where you’re coming from, no real criticism here. :D

          I guess the “less heavy” stuff is less often discussed, or just forgotten about when people are talking about “metal” as a whole:

          • As an example Nightwish is considered metal, and they have an opera singer: Nightwish - Ghost Love Score

          • Another random example, Jonathan Young’s metal cover of Hellfire (from Disney’s Notre Dame). Almost completely clean vocals, but also a bit “angry” sounding here and there.

          • Kardashev - Torchpassing is also one of my all-time favourites, and it’s mostly clean vocals. I guess the genre of this song is questionable anyway, due to being a bit more “chill” in many parts of the song - but the faster parts are quite clearly metal. Growling is used like an “extra effect” a couple of times.

          It’s also perfectly fine to not enjoy any of these, just dropping them here as examples about metal songs which have a clear melody and clean vocals. :D


          I do like my noise-filled growling too, though. This is one of the songs where I completely understand that vast majority of people would hate it, and anyone expecting otherwise would be delusional. I love it, but I also hate when some people act like everyone should enjoy stuff like this lmao.

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    Why what are you drinking? — Oh it’s a Cabernet Sauvignon, 2003, with chestnut hints it’s delicious. — Me: it’s just moldy grape Juice. — no but you have to pay attention to the small nuances in the… oh.

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    I never understood people that like metal. Some people are fascinated by this band called meshuggah and it’s juste impressive body coordination by following algorithmic rules that end up sounding like random noise. The meaningless screaming is garbage. I hate vocals and screeching at the microphone isn’t better.

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      I personally dislike Meshugga because I don’t care for gutteral screaming, but even my drunk ass isn’t arrogant enough to call it garbage just because it’s not to my taste.

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        The meaningless screaming is garbage

        Read again, slowly. I didn’t say meshuggah is garbage, the meaningless screaming in metal is garbage.

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      I hope you realize you sound like a boomer, I’ve literally heard my boomer mother make the same argument about different bands I listen to. If we were having this conversation a couple decades, I would expect to hear something like “Goddamn kids with their hip hop, saggy pants, and loud music”

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        If i sound like a bommers for not understanding how anyone can like noise as music so be it. I listen to all kind of music. Even Mongolian throat singing is somewhat melodic while metal sounds to me like noise.

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            I’d be happy to listen to anything you’d recommend If you got something that’s got at least some melodies, not someone screaming at the mic while another is hitting the drum like a maniac with some electric guitar backing it or vice versa.

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        As someone who enjoy spicy food your comment made me understand it more than any essay about what we find enjoyable or not. Mind blown.