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    I just switched yesterday after learning more about why I should here in Lemmy.

    The last time I tried FF (many years ago) it was incredibly slow, so I went with chrome. But the FF of today is actually noticably quicker.

    Also, FF offered to import all of my bookmarks, autofills, passwords, history, and even my extensions (if a FF version exists of course, almost all of which did) and did so seamlessly. It was the easiest software switch ever.

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        Privacy and not being part of Google would be the biggest reason.

        It also looks kinda nice, in my opinion.

        It’s also faster than chrome now I think.

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          It’s also faster than chrome now I think.

          Resource management is much better. Chrome will max out the RAM, which slows down the browser. Firefox handles that 100x better.

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        Apart from privacy concerns, Google has started to add some really bad features to Chrome, such as “Manifest V3” and “Web Environment Integrity”. These limit your ability to block ads or generally modify your device or the websites you’re visiting, and are just a bad for the web as a whole. WEI in particular is basically DRM for the web, so Google checks your device and denies you access to websites if they don’t like it. But as long as the majority of people keep using Chrome they can just force these things onto everyone.

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      My friggin’ Chromebook (which works great) can’t install FF.

      I’ve tried rooting into Ubuntu, but, I can’t get it all straightened out. Until I notice truly diminished issues… I’ll use Chromebook as is.

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        Not even as an Android app? I’ve run Firefox from crostini as well but the Android approach is a lot easier.

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    You wish that was happening.

    I’m preparing to be completely unsurprised that Firefox’s market share will still be at 3% next month and the month after that.

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      If that 3% is made up of an outsized share of power users they might be ok. I’m more worried about the power structure shenanigans that have been going on the past few years.

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      I alway wonder how underreported the Firefox figures are by things like that its users are generally more technical/privacy aware (so are blocking the trackers that report these numbers) and also spiders and bots often pretend to to Chrome (inflating those numbers).

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    If I had to choose between a tracked, ad-filled experience and a slower, protected experience, I would go back to 1990s style Internet in a second.

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      Slower? I think browsers are all pretty much on par these days.

      The killer feature Firefox needs to implement is profile switching.

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        You may know this, but Firefox does support multiple profiles. I regularly open it with firefox -p "PROFILENAME" depending on whether I’m working or not. you can go to about:profiles to manage the different profiles.

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          I find Containers to be very clunky to use. I love the idea, but not being able to just send a tab, cookies, session and everything to a Container is a PITA.

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            How would that work though? If you start outside a container how can you decide what to isolate to put into one?

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    Showing people that they can avoid ads by switching from chromium might make more people use adblockers.

    I get flabbergasted whenever I talk to someone and realize they’re unaware that such things exist. I hope all (according to the google store entry for ublock origin) 10,000,000 of the ublock origin users switches from chromium based browsers to, say, firefox…

    Feels like chromium is the new internet explorer…

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      That’s why Google is trying to launch the “Web Integrity API” that will essentially allow them to mandate any website accessible to or using Google Services to ban browsers that have ad blockers.

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      To me it looks like a tech savy kind of hurdle, once people learn about it and start thinkering they start to use it also.

      Better for us when people start caring for what they tolerate from corps.

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    What’s the advantage for google of doing this move? People “savy” enough to install an adblock (or even know that it exists) is most likely to switch to a competitor that allows for adblocking

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      Majority will keep using, for a while, until years later more see what has happened and move.

      Mean while profits on marketing go up.

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        Google has gone to absolute shit. Unless you let them stick their hand down your pants and fondle you, you can’t even use their search engine with out getting hit with a captcha so they can use browser fingerprinting to track you. We were all hearded into the slaughter house and they are just now starting up the kill machines.

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        Mhm, I see that point, although I find it concerning given that the quality of the UX platforms like youtube has kept a consistent decline over the past decade. It feels like google keeps amassing more and more reasons for people to enable adblockers but I also understand youtube needs to be a profitable business and at some point you need to show ads

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          True, these are the challenges of freeware, ads are required unless you pay or become a pirate.

          Youtubers/social media now mostly have promotions within videos, so we went back to how cable functions.

          Thoughts on Social media/Rumble/twitter and other video platforms will evolve over time?

          I think Alphabet (Google) will keep doing things that make people leave there other platforms, youtube will take a while so changes will be more gradual.

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            As a small note, in an unexpected turn of events, that “sponsor block” extension popped up also blocking promotions, I find it incredibly amazing that blocking ads can even go that further

            I can’t put my finger on it, but somehow I feel like youtube is irreplaceable, I don’t say this out of some internet patriotism, I just think the initial momentum of inertia really has to be massive to make it budge, while with fediverse-stuff you can gradually generate content and maybe some people will be attracted (?)

            And twitter’s trajectory is to fucking weird and unpredictable right now that I just have no clue 🙃🙃🙃

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              Awesome, I did not know blocking sponsers was a thing, wow.

              Yes, you are right, youtube will be harder to leave for people, but Tiktok/twitter/etc. are grabbing the attention away from yt.

              They all are trying to keep you on their platform as much as possible, for ads and data collection.

              The new big thing may be bettet at that…?

              Thanks for your input!

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                Oh yes, you’re right, tiktok is really eating youtube’s meal… and about the new big thing, hums, I’m not sure how it would look like 🤔

                Thank you for your input as well!! 🙌🏻✨

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                  TikTok is definitely hitting for certain demographics, but YouTube is still king in the long form department and I don’t see that changing unless they completely alienate their watchers and creators or someone comes along and offers significantly more money (to creators).

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        It won’t be a change no one notices though. Even non-savvy people who use ad-blockers are obviously going to notice that the internet suddenly became a significantly terrible experience.

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      The way things are going with data collection and advertising, the EU is bound to put heavy restrictions on it, basically killing the market Google is built on. They are trying to find a middle ground between banning data collection and full on everything being collected you do online, and if ad blockers just happen to die in the crossfire, it’s not Google’s concern.

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      I believe it’s a two-pronged attack.

      They have the Trust API changes they are trying to push, which I believe they may try to make websites only support browsers using that API. They have a largest user base already so they have some sway, if Chrome won’t load your webpage, you business might be dead.

      Couple that with their anti ad blocking extension, users have to use Chrome to access webpages and can’t block ads on those pages.

      Mildly tinfoil-hatty, but I think within the realm of possibility.

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      same problem we had back in the ie5/6 days: it was just there and most people don’t care. i physically cringe when i watch co-workers using chrome with not even a basic adblocker installed, klicking away ads, promts, pop-ups, videos and whatnot just to access a news article. it’s horrible!

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      Idk, I’ve used both browsers and I prefer Chrome in terms of features and UI. But it’s not worth the privacy you get with Firefox

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      Yeah, I’ve been using Firefox exclusively for ages. And also Duckduckgo, I just can’t stand the excessive of Google’s captcha since I always use VPN.

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    In the old days I used Firefox exclusively, until my work started only supporting chrome so I kinda went with it and switched. Out of habit I continued until a couple of years ago, that I went full Firefox again and I remembered why I loved it.

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    people when they learn about unlock origin works better with firefox

    I bet most people saying chrome is faster don’t even know about adblockers or are using Google’s websites

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      When I made the switch I was shocked at well it blocks ads. It still surprises me to this day. Yeah, it takes a little longer to load, but I couldn’t care less.

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    Even if Firefox couldnt block ads just like chrome, I still would prefer it. So much nicer in every way.

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    Seriously. I’ll be a redditor here, but that’s my “migrate-to-another service moment”. If I’m not able to whitelist the sites that provide a reasonable ad experience and block ads on those that dont, then I’m moving to a different browser and password saving environment.

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      Firefox and Bitwarden is the way to go Or even Mullvad Browser instead of Firefox. Its basically Firefox but already shipped with all the right configs and addons.