I’ve been the main moderator of the same community since 2016. This evening, i approved my last comment.

I’m leaving for two reasons:

  1. Reddit went public a week ago. I didn’t volunteer to work for a publicly traded company, i volunteered to work for a community. As long as i live under capitalism i accept that my labor will generate value for shareholders, but damned if i ever do it for free. (this is not a Faulkner quote)

  2. April 1st is coming and i’m scared they might do another r/place. Doing in r/place 2022 and 2023 has left me dejected and bitter and i don’t want to feel obligated to participate again.

Leaving felt like ripping myself off of something warm i’ve been comfortably glued to for a long time. Still recommend it for anyone still giving Reddit shareholders free labor


EDIT: there are too many comments to respond to, but i’ve appreciated all of them! Thank you

  • Kiernian@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    7 months ago

    The problem there is that the rise of reddit, specifically the fact that it has a much higher concentration of people discussing niche subjects due to its sheer size, ultimately led to the FALL of the forum.

    Most of the places that USED to turn up in search results are GONE because there was no point in paying for hosting when a seemingly superior outside solution with greater reach and greater response times existed.

    When helpful, contributing individuals remove their content from somewhere, it never hurts the big wigs that made the bad choice and it never teaches anyone any lessons because it never happens at a large enough scale to send a message. Hell, the giant reddit protest that led the lion’s share of people to Lemmy is barely a historical footnote and accomplished almost nothing particularly lasting or meaningful on Reddit itself despite being massive.

    I’m not saying protesting is a waste of time, it’s not, it just needs to be better coordinated than even the aforementioned one was to be effective and stopping along the way to punitively shoot the largely innocent community itself in the foot does not produce any positive end results.

    Don’t throw a temper tantrum and delete content, MIGRATE IT.

    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      7 months ago

      Don’t throw a temper tantrum and delete content, MIGRATE IT.

      That’s something I wish a lot of subs had the foresight to do before the API-block launched. I imagine it’s much more thankless and labor intensive to crawl the useful information from communities now. (But don’t worry, tons of Ais already did! /s)

      I miss forums, too.

      Most of the places that USED to turn up in search results are GONE because there was no point in paying for hosting when a seemingly superior outside solution with greater reach and greater response times existed.

      Also the story with Discord. Hey, you wanna try and shout your question like you’re in the middle of the New York Stock Exchange in the 90’s and hope you get a response? It’s instant tho! Even if the solution will be completely ephemeral and your question will be asked a million more times.

      Sigh.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        No, it’s all good. Yours was the millionth time the question was asked, so instead of an answer you’ll get everyone jumping down you throat to “just do a search.”

        Your search results will return the previous 999,999,999 times the question was asked, and also the same chorus of “just search,” but not the answer. And it’s no good just scrolling to the oldest result, because that time the question was not answered. You need to land somewhere near the hundredth repetition, which was the one where somebody answered the question, but after when nobody answered the question, and also before everyone got tired of the question.

        “But we have THREADS in Discord now! It’s so much better! Especially because no one reads or posts to them!”

        • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 months ago

          I hate when it also feels like you’re butting into a conversation with some “locals” by asking a question. Lol

          Like with a forum you could just open up with “Hey guys, so I tried to do this and… thanks for any help!”

          But in Discord you feel so awkward just hopping into “#general” because it’s the project’s only support board and going “HEY I TRIED THIS AND IT’S NOT WORKING ANY IDEAS?” as their chat about local weather scrolls your request away. Lmao

    • Maalus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      7 months ago

      Again, okay, good, fuck reddit. The helpful content will move. They won’t get clicks and advertising money from my comments.

    • spiderman@ani.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      When helpful, contributing individuals remove their content from somewhere, it never hurts the big wigs that made the bad choice

      Yes, it only removes a piece of knowledge which could be helpful and save their time fixing bugs or trying out new things for thousands.

      Don’t throw a temper tantrum and delete content, MIGRATE IT.

      Yeah, the proper way is to become a place that can solve your niche questions so that reddit will eventually die. You don’t have to “kill” it by changing your informative comments, help etc.

      • Maalus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        7 months ago

        Nah buddy. The propper way is to abandon reddit with all of your data and go somewhere else. Maybe that somewhere else is Lemmy, although it probably won’t be. By leaving your shit in, you generate clicks for their website, nothing more.

        • spiderman@ani.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          abandon reddit with all of your data and go somewhere else.

          where exactly you will pass those answers for niche questions? unless someone creates a similar community in lemmy, it gains traction enough and someone asks same question? if that’s the case, good luck for you, bad luck for that person who didn’t make any mistake but wanted to find a fix, spez isnt the one who’s going to be annoyed when you edit your comments, that stranger is going to be. let me know if any guys who edit their comments on reddit make and moderate similar communities here, i will be glad to be a member.

          • Maalus@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            Okay then, why should I care about this niche information being on reddit? I want them gone. The comments that were made are made by me. I can do whatever I want with them.

            • spiderman@ani.social
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              7 months ago

              i hope no one will be affected by your “niche and informative” comments being edited with “eat shit spez”. have a nice day, and make lemmy or other forums that you find useful grow in an organic way.

              • Maalus@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                7 months ago

                Yeah, people will be affected. That’s the point of deleting your comments from reddit.

                • spiderman@ani.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  7 months ago

                  but it’s not gonna be spez or other reddit execs, the ones who are responsible for api changes but your average joe who just uses reddit to find answers to niche questions? anyways, idt you are gonna understand so it’s useless to continue anyways. do what you want brotha. i doubt anyone will be affected by your informative comments being edited anyways.

                  • Maalus@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    7 months ago

                    And we are back to square one, and the protest that doesn’t inconvenience anyone. It’s you who doesn’t understand. Reddit doesn’t deserve being the site to go to for “niche info” and “troubleshooting”. You know jack shit about me, yet you say “nobody is going to need them” without knowing what I do. Newsflash, robotics, CNCs, programming and a lot of shit you probably couldn’t grasp.