Summary
Rep. Annie Kuster, a 68-year-old Democrat from New Hampshire, retiring after 12 years in Congress, cites a desire to “set a better example” and create space for younger leaders.
Her decision comes amid growing public concern about aging politicians, with about a quarter of lawmakers over 70. Kuster’s successor will be Maggie Goodlander, 38.
Democrats are increasingly elevating younger leaders following setbacks in 2024, which some attribute to the perception of aging leadership, including President Biden’s controversial reelection bid.
Calls for age limits remain popular but face significant legislative hurdles.
They are our fucking employees. We should be able to choose the terms of their employment. Seems like a pretty fundamental tenant of a fucking democracy to me.
We should have made a provision for National referendum For things like this.
Well, we cannot even stop them from insider training. Then there is the problem of all the legalized bribery…I would think age limits faces much more of an uphill battle, even without the moral quandary it poses.
What moral quandary? No one but pedophiles complains about the fact that age minimums for certain activities exist. Cognitive function is a bell curve and old people are on the back end of it. That’s just a fact of life. What is controversial about it?
Well, with age also comes wisdom, so forcing people out when they might be hitting a stride is rather immoral (and foolish) if you ask me.
It’d be one thing if we were to start applying cognitive tests beyond a certain age…I’d hate to lose the likes of Bernie just based on a number. If someone is sharp and able-bodied well into their nineties or even later, what is the point in pushing them out?
But again, as I say, even this line of reasoning is rather static and fixed in time. This kind of discussion may age very badly if/when age extension/age reversal comes online, and I don’t want us setting something up that will likely come off extremely anachronistic just based on one of the last remaining prejudices that, at this point in time, is still permissible and even fashionable in polite company - and that is ageism. The rules of government are rather famous for not keeping up with the times and it seems foolhardy to try to put something into place that may very quickly become ridiculous.
With age comes wisdom, but at our politician’s ages, so do issues like dementia and Alzheimer’s
Possibly, but also maybe not. You have to treat people as individuals. That’s what cognitive testing would be good for, in any case.
Bernie is 83. He’ll be 89 when he most likely retires. I say as long as he is of sound mind and body, I want people like him in there. If he was forced out at some arbitrary cutoff, we would have missed out on decades of his input.
Not everyone ages equally.
The idea is that we choose every election.
We could have more choices if we replaced First past the post voting by passing state level electoral reform.
But then the Democrats would have to actually compete for yiur vote so that’s a hard pass.
We choose the person we don’t choose the terms.
We most often don’t choose the person either. The parties usually decide for us who is even allowed to run.
It’s for the best, otherwise someone might run as a Democrat that doesn’t support their policies. /$
Which you choose when you vote in the primaries.
So, about that democratic presidential primary…
Biden won it. I don’t think an incumbent president has ever lost their primary when running for re-election, at least not in modern times when they actually had primaries that people could vote in. It’s on Biden for deciding to run again.
The parties get to decide who can run in the primaries
I used to think a candidate had to at least be a member of a party to run in its primaries, but Bernie corrected my misunderstanding.
Bernie joined the party. He had to in order to run as a Democrat. He later became independent again.
I kept hearing conflicting stories on whether he actually joined the party or only promised to become a Democrat if he won the candidacy.
Only in the same way your landlord or your bank is your employee. The positions have been monopolized by a handful of cartel brokers and the real job of administering is in the hands of corporate lackeys puffed up through billions of dollars in sales and marketing. Liberal democracy has been defanged by market forces.
There’s no such thing as a “national referendum”, legally speaking. We don’t vote on legislation, just on bureaucrats. And the bureaucrats we get to vote on are selected first by the donors, then by the party, and only finally by the general electorate.
Nobody we elect has any incentive to cap the age or number of terms they hold office. Why would they vote against their collective best interests?
The problem is people like, “their,” geriatric. Ed Markey is my Senator, and he says he’ll be seeking reelection in two years when he’ll be 80. Even though I think he’s been a pretty good Senator, I want him to retire at the end of term, but I’m probably in the minority, and it will be an uphill battle to primary him if he doesn’t choose to step down.
It would still be age discrimination. The way to go is term limits.
If there can be a minimum age, there can be a maximum age.
We can do an article V convention to amend the constitution with these limits in order to circumvent DC politics entirely. But they will tell you that it’s an incredibly dangerous thing to do, and could cost us democracy itself!…I say we go for it anyway.
It’s as if they have a union, because as much as we employ them, they can only be fired under certain conditions which they vote on.