• snooggums@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    12 days ago

    As an American, we made a mistake in not adopting those. Torx or whatever isn’t even as good.

    • Hubi@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      90
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      12 days ago

      Torx is better than whatever this Canadian abomination is. You’d only put pressure on the corners in a realistic setting. These would get rounded so fast unless they are massive, like on some differentials or gearbox oil drains.

      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        57
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        12 days ago

        This guy mechanics

        Indeed torx is so good because it attempts to maximize the surface where pressure is applied to. This is good on smaller sized bolts that are more prone to being rounded, but especially amazing when removing bolts that may have been exposed and potentially corroded

          • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            36
            ·
            edit-2
            12 days ago

            Yeah, hex is very nice but torx is improvement over it.

            I have not checked on it, but I’m like 97.25% sure wood screws jumped from Philips to torx however because of corrosion resistance. Hex is very easy to round already as is on smaller sizes, but even more so if the head is exposed to elements and corroded. Of course material matters a lot, but even stainless corrodes over time.

            Torx has to be very, very bad condition for it to round, it’s more likely for the screw to snap

            Sorry for drunk rambling but I really like bolts. And bearings for what it’s worth

      • someguy3@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        edit-2
        11 days ago

        Never had or seen a stripped Robertson, they are robust AF. Don’t ask me the physics. (They go deep into the screw head because of the simple shape, maybe that has part of it. And they are tapered, it’s not just a square, so they manage to grip the bit like a mofo. You don’t cam out of a Robertson.)

        • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          12 days ago

          I’ve snapped so many Robertson bits in my life. Screws are fine.

          1 5/8" cement board screws

          They used to be Robertson. They switched to Torx.

          Night and day difference

          Like you said, they do grip like a mofo, and with an impact driver, the bits snap.

          I tried dozens of different brands of bits. Even paid top dollar for special Milwaukee ones.

          I was at a point where I had to pre-drill and counter sink the screws because I was breaking too many bits.

          I could probably drive a torx head one through a board

      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        12 days ago

        Hex already fit that niche.

        Torx was just so they could make wood screws that weren’t Robertson and it bled out from there.

        • anomnom@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          12 days ago

          Torx bits are waaaay stronger than hex. Like double the surface area and tapered to work when corroded.

          My 30 year old VW axles with hex bolts were a nightmare. The new ones are all Torx or 12pt.

          I ended to driving an oversized Torx but into the nearly stripped hex bolts to finally remove them.