• Jumi@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I don’t like the idea being part of a country that could kill thousands or even millions of people at once.

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      2 months ago

      Well, no, but I’d rather be in the position of the stick holder than the potential pointy end receiver.

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        2 months ago

        Nuclear war is not a stick battle, it’s a knife fight. You’ll both end up bleeding out. Best thing you can do is to not participate.

        People should watch Doctor Strangelove as a fucking case study.

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          Best thing you can do is to not fucking participate.

          What if that’s not an option? It could for sure be rational for a violent actor to force it’s will on a non-voilent one. One only needs one rotten apple and the Nash equilibrium dissolves.

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            2 months ago

            We should be hesitant to accept too many lessons from the American realist school of thought. Their great legacy is to narrowly steer clear of a nuclear holocaust, on several instances out of sheer luck, while repeatedly fucking up huge parts of the world beyond recognition.

            Somehow we celebrate this clown parade for the one disaster they nearly brought upon us, but we narrowly escaped. There’s no lessons to be learned from the Americans, except as a cautionary tale.

            Sure, MAD worked; we only came closer to our own extinction than we ever have in the process.