Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura criticized the Republican presidential nominee in a CNN interview last night.
  • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1046·
    1 month ago

    Keep in mind that Jesse Ventura is himself a crazy conspiracy theorist that borders on being detached from reality. He is on a completely different branch of the cray cray tree than Donald Trump, but they’re both crazy.

    Taking sides in a Ventura vs. Trump feud is like taking sides in an argument between two mental patients over who’s president of Jupiter.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      57·
      1 month ago

      I agree that Jesse Ventura is an unhinged loon, but I have to give my proper respects to that Jesse Ventura is an unhinged loon with strong moral convictions. He believes racism is wrong, that gay marriage should be legal, and that we should see eachother for who we really are instead of hiding behind manufactured machismo (which is such a fucking wild stance for a professional wrestler). I don’t think Jesse Ventura is a hero, because he’s too detached from reality to be one, but I do think he knows a when someone is like Donald Trump, Pat Buchanan, or David Duke is completely morally bankrupt, and for that I respect him.

      • Kowowow@lemmy.ca
        34·
        1 month ago

        He shot down alex jones about people crossing the border and using social programs they shouldnt by brining up that it’s really the fault of the system for being broken and not the people for using every tool they are given

        • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
          21·
          1 month ago

          This is what I mean. The core values at the center of Jesse Ventura are good ones, and he doesn’t let people bully others. He also believes some really weird shit is true that isn’t. But like. Man. He’d be a really good person to run around town with. He’d always take the right side on the big issues and when you’re drinking or getting high he’d say some shit that would be really fun to talk about even if you’re taking it less serious than him. But he’s at his core not someone to follow. But I’ll grant him the title of “someone to emulate.” You can bring his brand of strong willed kindness to your conception if what it means to operate in America. He’s someone who understands the broad strokes of what’s going on and what people are about. If you grew up watching Jesse Ventura and thought he was really cool: I have good news. You’re right. Its my official stance thay Jesse Ventura is really cool

    • Fedizen@lemmy.world
      28·
      1 month ago

      Ventura tried to unionize wrestlers and was snitched on by Hulk Hogan. People I’ve talked to said he was an okay governor. Ventura is a weird guy but unlike Trump the dude has a heart.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
      291·
      1 month ago

      taking sides in an argument between two mental patients over who’s president of Jupiter.

      It’s stupid to take sides in that argument because everyone knows I’m the president of Jupiter

      • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        1 month ago

        Excuse me, but the Jupiter Charter of 1982 clearly states in section 1 that I am, by a unanimous vote of the people of Jupiter, president for life.

        Before that, the entire population of Jupiter was officially zero. So I decided to vote myself as President of Jupiter, along with chief justice of the Jupiter Supreme Court, and every other government position of Jupiter. When I wrote the Jupiter Charter, I did it with a vision that the people of Jupiter would from there on self-govern and make their own choices. So I added a clause saying that only natural-born citizens of Jupiter, who are physically on Jupiter on election day, can vote for anything. So until there are at least two people physically on Jupiter and able to vote me out, I am and will remain the president of Jupiter.

        My inauguration speech, and our national anthem for your reference.

          • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 month ago

            I think I need to let you know about the last time someone tried that. See, they tried to impeach me when I was president of Saturn and tried to have me impeached from exile on one of Saturn’s moons. So I blew up the whole moon. Where do you think those rings came from? When you have Presidential immunity, you can commit moonicide like that and not lose any votes. It’s where the Supreme Court got the idea for their latest ruling.

    • DogPeePoo@lemm.ee
      231·
      1 month ago

      None of this, however, disputes or refutes Jesse’s factual statement of Trump being a huge chickenshit coward and draft dodger— who has completely abused the freedom others have provided.

      Facts are facts.

      I always marvel at Dotard Don’s ability to play so much fucking golf with “bone spurs” that also, when it was convenient, somehow prevented him from serving.

      #DraftDodgeDonald

      🐔🐓🐔

      • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        1 month ago

        None of this, however, disputes or refutes Jesse’s factual statement of Trump being a huge chickenshit coward and draft dodger— who has completely abused the freedom others have provided.

        Facts are facts.

        This is 100% correct. I just wanted to point out that Ventura also has a few screws loose. He can be (and in this case, is) both crazy and correct.

        I always marvel at Dotard Don’s ability to play so much fucking golf with “bone spurs” that also, when it was convenient, somehow prevented him from serving.

        hahaahahahahaha, like the man walks all 18 holes. Or walks at all. The man gets his fat ass carried around in a golf cart, and makes one of his suckups be his caddy, He’s been known as a cheater in golf for decades. You could tell me that he doesn’t even bother to actually swing the golf club at all, and I’d believe it. Hell, I’d put 2:1 odds down that says he doesn’t even play all 18 holes and skips the tough ones.

        • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
          5·
          1 month ago

          He’s been known as a cheater in golf for decades

          That’s the funniest thing though… someone as “rich” and connected as he claims to be, he could have every single masters champion for the last 50 years give him personal lessons at his private golf courses. But instead, he plays multiple times per week and still cheats, and still is pretty mid at golf.

          • kablammy@sh.itjust.works
            5·
            1 month ago

            Taking lessons would require showing humility and admitting he isn’t already naturally the best at something.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
      143·
      1 month ago

      I’m on Jesse’s side and I don’t care. We’re lucky the Republicans are dumbasses because he actually would have siphoned votes from Harris as a spoiler candidate instead of RFK.

      Jesse’s unironically based as hell, he’s just rightly suspicious of for profit healthcare and the US government.

      https://www.ontheissues.org/Jesse_Ventura.htm

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
      11·
      1 month ago

      My daughter asked me who he was and I said, imagine a politician that says something like “every citizen of this nation deserves to have healthcare, and it shouldn’t matter what their financial situation is. Everyone deserves healthcare and a living wage, except those lizard people who disguise themselves as Americans, but are actually subterranean terrorists who are trying to control the world with mind control lasers”

  • casmael@lemm.ee
    11·
    1 month ago

    Is this uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh captain freedom are you ready for pain, are you ready for suffering if the answer’s yes you’re ready for captain freedom’s workout?

  • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
    11·
    1 month ago

    This is bigger than people will make it out to be… and not because Ventura will sway voters but because his statement and sentiment is likely emblematic of a lot of men like him.

  • haunte@leminal.spaceEnglish
    11·
    1 month ago

    Trump is probably the last presidential candidate we will ever have (hopefully) for whom questions about the draft are even relevant. The last time the US had forced conscription was in 1973. Which means anyone born after 1955 has never been in danger of being drafted. The youngest person who could have possibly been a draft dodger is nearly 70. Stop nominating geriatrics and this conversation goes away for good.

  • Adderbox76@lemmy.caEnglish
    7·
    1 month ago

    I was chuckling through that interview. He just didn’t know when to stop. Starts out defending Walz and calling out Vance for criticising a fellow veteran, then swings into supporting Harris because he says he wants to be alive to witness the first female president because it’s about damn time… and you’re thinking, damn…good man. good guy.

    And then goes off the rails about god knows what…

    Dude…know when to quit. You were doing so well.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      1 month ago

      Ventura wasn’t a good governor. Too many CTEs from his pro wrestler days.

      He wasn’t the worst governor in recent history, it that’s just because his successor was actually competent. (And pawlenty is an asshole.)

      Ventura had no party base in the state legislature, so none of his good”agenda (like protecting gay rights,) got done.

      His tax rebates saddled Minnesota with the largest budget deficit on record and teed up Pawlenty’s budget cuts

        • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          Not really.

          I mean he didn’t hurt getting the light rail but most of that heavy lifting came from elsewhere. He really couldn’t do jack shit to push his agenda through.

          Another good thing about Ventura was he was willing to admit he didn’t know something and was very good about finding the right people to ask. For example the lady that walz had running the pandemic? First appointed by Ventura.

          It there was plenty of oddities. Like he gave department heads 6% raises and then told people under them there wasn’t money for their raises.

          And he set back public education by a decade or two cancelling taxes on things like vacation homes. (And there was also a thing about rainy day funds getting clawed back, too. Which fucked schools in ‘07 when the recession hit.)

          Mostly, he did something that’s increasingly difficult to do. He united dems and pubies. Against him, but they were still united.