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If it’s garbage then I’ll downvote it and maybe block the user if they continue to post garbage in the future.
Yes it’s effort, but is it constructive?
Depends on how you value constructiveness
Yeah that constructiveness is purely subjective. Well it’s constructive based on my own personal point of view. And it might not align with other people.
Most of the instances have disabled downvoges
Wow that’s so lame.
This one allows them!
I know one of them. It’s called youtube
Upvote = I laughed. That’s what I came for. To many occasions nowadays where a post’s main purpose is something other than making me laugh. Y’all need to entertain me better.
Why should we care what motivates people to upvote or downvote?
I’m pretty sure the intent when upvotes and downvotes were created was to use them in regards to relevance. Is the topic about ducks and someone is going off about jeeps? Downvote. Is the community about posting DIY peanut butter but someone keeps posting Skippy™? Downvote.
It shouldn’t have anything to do with agreeing, effort, or anything like that. Just a way to keep the topic/community on track.
I use it as a “you should read this” button. Even if it’s offtopic, I’ll upvote if it’s funny or useful.
I like this explanation the best. Net vote count is a decent proxy for whether something is worth reading.
I wholeheartedly agree with that. Also earlier when the dude was posting racist memes and everyone downvoted, I liked that usage.
disagree. downvote.
Isn’t that what was specified in the original reddiquette? Downvote to maintain quality, but not to disagree?
Yes, that’s more than likely where I first learned about it.
I’m kinda glad we downvote the things we disagree with. Whether on topic or not, shit opinions don’t deserve to be displayed with the same prominence as reasonable opinions.
And that’s how a community become an echo chamber. Also assuming any opinion you agree with is reasonable and those you disagree with is shitty is silly…
I only upvote comments if the person posted something I was going to post myself. Saves me time. If I think the post itself is cool I upvote the post.
Get off your high fucking horse. Upvotes are for content you want to see, downvotes are for content you don’t. Can we stop pretending there’s some bullshit morality attached or that they’re for anything other than base popularity?
This isn’t right either, upvotes are for whatever I want and downvotes are for whatever I want. Ima fucking downvoted myself now after I post this comment
I’m downvoting you now because I agree with you
And I’m upvoting you because while I completely disagree with your comment, I’m in gratitude of your effort and we will always need new comments.
I’m upvoting you because I respect your opinion, but disagree, because commenting for the sake of commenting reduces the overall quality of a thread and downvote myself, because by posting this comment I am contributing to the issue.
based
You literally just repeated my exact point, but left out “to see”
You want it, upvote it; you don’t, downvotes it. Are we actually just fighting for the sake of fighting? I thought this wasn’t Reddit.
Not arguing, I’m just shit posting
Harmful ideas should be downvoted and repressed even if they took effort to type out, actually
There’s always an edge case or two, it doesn’t undermine the overarching idea though
Has anyone made a Simpsons shitpost thing I can join? That’s pretty much all I miss from reddit. That and Slay by Comment
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Innit!
Redditors want to make rules now, huh?
Put it like this, there’s a reason YouTube removed dislikes, because they need to keep seeing new channels. So even if the old popular channels die, they’ll have newer channels to replace them. That starts with making toxic disliking redundant. Don’t for a second think there’s no place for dislikes, but as a “I don’t like you” or “I disagree”, it’s counter productive.
Yes, some people do misuse down voting, but it’s absolutely worth it in my mind. It prevents bigotry from both being shown highly and also makes it clear that bigotry isn’t acceptable. How do you think someone feels when they see a bigoted comment and it’s in the positives. I’ll answer that question cause I’ve seen it all the time: it’s depressing as fuck. It still sucks to see bigoted comments at all, but at least when they’re downvoted to hell, it feels better. It feels nice to know that the bigotry isn’t accepted by others and that the bigot is in the minority.
Similar for general misinformation, scams, etc. It’d be nice if bad comments could just get removed before you see them, but that will never be perfect. Even well moderated communities still have delays before moderators see reports and most people won’t take the time to report either.
This isn’t Reddit, there’s no account-wide tracking of special Internet points to worry about.
It’s about scoring to help sorting through content that’s relevant, not a competition for points.
Yeah, that was my point.
Yeah but if someone gets points, they’re more likely to post again.
Only if they are have no self esteem and need validation from strangers, upvotes are mostly fluff, downvotes when not abused are the better way of doing things
Someone says the earth is flat… downvote, someone says I wonder why they think like that let’s try and understand why they think like that doesn’t deserve a downvote, but with the current online echo chambers on both sides these are how downvotes are used
Nah, getting a dopamine hit is the standard human reaction to getting approval, and upvotes are basically distilled approval. You can pretend you are “tough” and don’t care about “validation from strangers” but normal people get a sense of satisfaction and a desire to repeat it when they post something online that is well received.
Hell, that emotional reaction is the entire motivating factor that keeps every social media site full of fresh content. People want to be liked.
Yeah you are right I’m not immune to our biological hardwiring it’s not a me being tough thing however, not everyone is equally affected by it.
I don’t have social media as I don’t see value in it, also if my comments get downvoted to shit or upvoted I don’t really care because these things aren’t real life to me
Even in real life if someone praises me for doing a good job it’s a nice thing to do for sure but I don’t actually care about getting praise especially from strangers, if it’s someone I know then sure
Sure, everyone is variable and your personal experience is valid. It isn’t very different from mine, tbh (also lemmy is social media so…)
I just took exception to the “(people are motivated by upvotes) …only if they have no self esteem and need validation from strangers” part. Many people are motivated by upvotes, but there isn’t anything necessarily wrong with that, and it certainly doesn’t mean they have low self esteem or anything. It just felt rude.
I just want to encourage to post and keep posting.
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the reason I upvote a post can differ. sometimes it’ll be because I agree with it, sometimes it’ll be because I want more people to see it and interact with it.
We don’t need posts that are like, Facebook quality
I upvote signal and downvote noise. Novelty is good whether I agree with it or not, redundancy is bad.
Spot on. Though the website deals with that much more gracefully than the apps
