The Hawaii Supreme Court handed down a unanimous opinion on Wednesday declaring that its state constitution grants individuals absolutely no right to keep and bear arms outside the context of military service. Its decision rejected the U.S. Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Second Amendment, refusing to interpolate SCOTUS’ shoddy historical analysis into Hawaii law. Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern discussed the ruling on this week’s Slate Plus segment of Amicus; their conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.
Remember, Hawaii is the the only US state so far taken by force.
What do you mean? Most of the county was taken by force. Taken from indigenous tribes or Mexico and originally from the British. Really Alaska is the weird one. We just bought that.
The British and the US government are actually two different governments. So I said US state not British anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_of_the_Hawaiian_Kingdom
Mass immigration and creating an abusive lawless space called “the frontier” versus direct military overthrow are two different things.
What are you taking about? The vast majority of the US was claimed by the US government, not the British. Also, do the indigenous tribes in the mainland not count as a “government” to you or something? Their land was 100% taken by force. Along with the original war against the British and subsequent wars with Mexico, I’d say that user is completely correct.
“Yeah but uh like we can blame someone else for that so we get to enjoy the spoils of their sins except guilt-free” - Americore Brainworms
That’s a pretty shit take, even by American standards. Toss in pretending Hawaii is the only one and even conservatives are going to clown on it.
You’re telling me the trail of tears wasn’t the British’s doing?!? 😭😭😭 /s
illegally by US marines and a gun boat and the Queen told the people to stand down thinking the US government would do the right thing
Well there we go; the stupidest thing I’ll read today.
And the Mexican-American War was… what? An energetic negotiation?