In a tense game of chicken, remarkable for its mix of petulance and audacity, congressional Republicans are threatening to halt U.S. aid to Ukraine—guaranteeing a Russian breakthrough and possible victory in that war—unless Democrats help pass a bill that all but locks down America’s Southern border.
If the impasse isn’t resolved by the end of next week, when Congress goes on recess until the new year, the Ukrainian army could run out of ammunition. President Joe Biden could resupply the arsenal from U.S. stockpiles without legislative approval, but the move would be temporary, and the signal sent—that Ukraine, and by implication other allies, can no longer count on U.S. support in a pinch—could be a holiday cork-popper for Russian President Vladimir Putin and all of our other adversaries.
Throughout history, conservatives have always supported genocide. Harming the vulnerable brings genuine joy to conservatives. You can see this in their movies, comedy and news media. They thrive on the misery of others.
Be careful in your dealings with conservatives. They do not value the lives of others the way a normal person does.
The most basic difference between “left” and “right” on the political spectrum is that left-leaning people believe every human is worth the same and should get the same chances while right wing people believe humans are fundamentally different and the ones on the top deserve their place as much as the ones on the bottom.
That’s also why so many libertarians (or just recently proclaimed anarcho capitalists) are actually right-wing since they believe in unequal distribution of chances and quality of life based on capitalist principles and it’s also why moderates that claim to be neither right nor left usually lean more right
Maybe. Probably some. But I think it’s more accurate to say that for a lot of then, the suffering is acceptable.
On the Left Right and Center podcast, the conservative Rich Lowry once said it was ridiculous to say Republicans hate children. I think that’s true in the sense of, if you left a baby alone in a room with a Republican, it would be ok. But if that Republican could earn a penny of profit from killing that kid, you better start planning that funeral cause they’re toast.
Feeling’s mutual.
No it isn’t. That’s the whole fucking point.
Then why are the Democrats supporting genocide? That ain’t Trump’s state department and UN ambassador vetoing a ceasefire.
The US deputy ambassador, Richard Mills, said the US would not give up on its aim of removing Hamas, explaining America wanted “to break the cycle of unceasing violence so that history does not keep repeating itself”. He said a ceasefire now “would only plant the seeds for the next war because Hamas has no desire to see a durable peace. Our goal should not be to stop the war for today but to stop the war for ever”.
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lol you’re all over the board
Au contraire. Judging by the downvotes, I’m exactly where I need to be.
I think they meant that you’re so terminally online I can read a comment and recognize your garbage takes no matter where I go
If my takes are garbage, just ignore them. But you don’t, because they’re not. There’s genocides happening around the world, and you’re complaining about someone being terminally online? SMFH
The irony here is hilarious
Haha, you’re right.
Because the Democrats are conservatives.
That’s a bingo! But what are they conserving? Is it capitalist hegemony in the world? We’ll never know.
Billionaire profits, mostly.
Can you have too many pancakes? They’re delicious.
Personally I think they’re desperately trying to keep the Jewish vote… no other reason. It’s horrible pandering.
I think that’s part of it, but I the government is also using Israel as a proxy, and we do have silicon manufacturing there. The government has a vested military and security interest in Israel (money and power is far more important, the votes are a bonus).
Unlike all of the other countries in the Middle East, Israel is surrounded only by enemies. Israel can’t turn on the US without a replacement military superpower, so they’re effectively bound to the US for guaranteed protection.
Example: Despite Iran’s posturing they weren’t going to attack knowing they’d get a military response from the US if they did. They almost certainly could get away with attacking a different country the US isn’t protecting though without anything more than sanctions.
The US can support Israel’s right to exist along with the Palestinians too and could pressure Israel to have a more reserved response that didn’t kill so many Palestinian civilians. And in fact it’s clear many in the administration want this. However as there are definitely ardent Israel supporters that have no empathy for the civilians plight and that have deep pockets and long memories, it appears Biden is very reluctant to offend them right before an election.
Republicans are scumbags. If you’re a republican reading this, ask yourself what it is about your brain that makes you support true evil.
Do you feel small inside? Like you didn’t get what you wanted from life, so now others should suffer?
The answer is that conservative thinking is driven by fear. It’s not that liberals don’t fear things, it’s that liberal thinking isn’t driven primarily by fear.
This is a stupid question, but what is connection of fear-based thinking and not surprising Ukraine or supporting Putin?
The fear is that a trans! woman might sneak up behind you at the urinal and sodomize you!
So Republican fears are just their deepest fantasies?
Well when you put it that way, yes. Absolutely.
The Republican base is taught to fear. Fear liberals, fear diversity, fear whatever they’re told to fear. A generation ago they were told to fear Russia, so we opposed Russians with all our strength. They’re told the only salve for their fear is a strong leader.
Now, today, Putin presents himself as a strong leader and suddenly Russia is no longer to be feared but admired. So what that he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union by invading the nations around him? Trump says he’s a good guy, so obviously when he says he’s invading Ukraine for their own good he must be telling the truth.
They follow anyone who presents themselves as strong and confident because that allays their fears somewhat. And since their current leaders like Russia and don’t like Ukraine, that’s what they’re supporting.
Yeah, we have to closely watch the dollars spent on this war, from the very same party that had no problem funding the Afghanistan and Iraq wars and letting them go on indefinitely…and the very same party that used to be so staunchly anti-Russia.
Russian State TV ran celebratory pieces when the House elected Johnson as speaker. He’s been in their pocket for a while.
Remember when a bunch of Republican senators had a secret meeting with Putin on the Fourth of July?
Is it really a gift if you paid for it?
It’s like when your mom used to give you money to buy her a gift for Christmas. Except this time you’d be a treasonous rat-faced fucking traitor and your mom would be a Russian asshole.
Every conservative is already a traitor to humanity, so this is kind of on brand. 😇
Fucking SPOT ON!
Biden has pulled off other victories in the past that we all thought were dead.
Let’s hope he can do it again.
A victory that will solidify China and Russia and embolden them against Taiwan, moving us straight into WW3. A little deterrence could go a long way right now.
I’m surprised stopping immigration is so high on the Republicants handlers lists right now, considering there’s not enough people willing to work menial jobs as-is and that doesn’t seem to be changing.
They found a loophole. They don’t need adults to do those jobs anymore. Unaccompanied minors aren’t turned away at the border and multiple states are removing child labor laws. Now we have unaccompanied immigrant children working fun time making cars in Ford and GM factories, Cheerios, and all sorts of other things for pennies, all here in the US.
They aren’t working for Ford or GM. What the fuck with this? Even if the companies wanted to, the unions wouldn’t stand for it. I’m going to need a reputable source for this.
Edit: Or downvotes. That’s a perfectly reasonable way to respond to doubt and incredulity.
Their example was a bit simplistic. They are working in the supply chain and several other, less unionized, industries like meat packing and processed food.
What the OC said and this are not at all the same thing. You’re right. They’ll be in B2B companies and construction and food service. But what OC explicitly said was “in Ford and GM factories” and “making cars.”
It might be fair to say this of any big company who has B2B workers working in their factories. A lot of companies outsource janitorial services for example and could have kids in them. But a company like GM or Ford doesn’t want to get their hands dirty by directly hiring illegals, and the UAW would never stand for an outside company doing work the union could do.
Of all the defensible examples they could’ve used, those two are the least likely to be implicated. Hence my incredulity. If they have a beef with the auto industry or American automakers, this was the wrong thread to pull them out as the go to bad guy.
Absolutely. I just wanted to provide better examples.
Who removed child labor laws?
sarah huckabee sanders for one.
They just removed the requirement to get a permission slip from the government. They didn’t change anything else. Still the same regulations.
The free market / capitalist part of the GOP is dead and gone. They don’t care about labor, the budget, spending, anything - they just care about getting power and keeping power. They also don’t really intend to do anything they claim to care about, it’s all just about fluffing up the base.
Fuck the republican traitor filth. We must hold the traitors to account!
Seriously. They are insanely fucking compromised. Anti-american trash who don’t deserve to live here anymore.
Careful. That’s how they want you to think about others. Ruthless means literally without compassion. Now granted, you may need to dig deep in some cases.
Just because Russia wants me to think something, that doesn’t make it not true.
From Arsenal of Democracy to Arse of Democracy in 70 years
If the impasse isn’t resolved by the end of next week, when Congress goes on recess until the new year
You ever notice how many of these critical bills come up and the news is like “they have 25 minutes to negotiate before Congress goes on one of its biannual 5 month vacations”? Like, I know the theory is that they’re supposed to spend that time in their districts dealing with their constituents but by show of hands does anyone feel like their congressperson actually gives any sort of a wet shit about them or their district?
I’ve said it before. We need to make congress and the supreme court live in their respective buildings during their tenure, like a prison.
This is what happens when you get locked into having only two major viable political parties. This shit is going to continue unless the American political system is reformed to allow multiple viable parties, for example with ranked-choice or approval voting.
Both partiesApparently just fucking Republicans will fight against this tooth and nail.Both parties
Sorry, but that’s not true at all.
Democrats have consistently been the ones to institute RCV in the US, including in North Carolina, until Republicans repealed it. Like it or not, if you want rights these days, you need to vote Democrat.
Dang, you’re right! Thanks for the fact check, I realize now I never questioned that concept, it was totally an assumption.
Here is a good article, plus a media bias check on the source. I was unable to find any mentions of Democrats actively fighting ranked choice voting (RCV).
https://19thnews.org/2023/04/ranked-choice-voting-election-system/
If only the rest of the world could help save Ukraine from Russia and the evil Republicans…
The rest of the world doesn’t have a humongously big arsenal that they can donate the weapons from in order to buy more BC they aren’t the richest economy in the world. Even if the EU had enough between all the countries the lack of central gov really makes it harder
There are a bunch of countries that have arsenals almost as big as the US. We aren’t the only ones that are able to help, we just love getting involved in other countries conflicts.
The US has more military power than the rest of the top 10 combined. What countries do you think rival the US in terms of military might?
If only the US democrats and republicans hasn’t lobbied and pushed for this war to happen.
Oh I’m sorry. Forgot you can’t say that and we have to pretend Russia woke up one day and decided to invade… Sigh.
As an American I can say for sure I don’t give a shit about that war. There is no scenario at all that if situations were reversed we would get the sort of support we’ve given from anyone.
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Too much “Republican = Russia” nonsense. Truth is that Republicans never gave a wet fart about Ukraine or Russia, and they see an opportunity here to put the White House over a barrel to score a big win before the election. All of Eastern Europe is just a bargaining chip to score domestic wins.
Nonsense. Pleasing Putin is just as important as pleasing Trump to republicans. In fact it’s their number one priority at this point.
Too much “Republican = Russia” nonsense.
I’m sorry that reality is uncomfortable for you. But it doesn’t change the truth.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-the-gop-became-the-party-of-putin/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/12/impeachment-republican-party-russia/603088/
https://morningconsult.com/2017/05/24/republicans-warming-russia-polls-show/
I doesn’t matter why they are doing it, just that they are even considering it.
The right is sympathetic to Putin because he pays lip service to the religious, which endeared him to the right across the world. The Republican constituenrs like Putin so their representatives also had to kowtow.
You know, this made me realise that Putin had been sublime with propaganda war. His illiberal and lip service payment to religious conservatives endeared him to the right. Then, his “anti-imperialist”, anti-Western rhetoric also won him the left.
Putin is playing both sides with strings on them. This isn’t like the old days of Cold War when there was a well defined enemy to oppose. Modern Russia is a malleable entity that woos people of either political inclinations. This created a polarisation in the West and elsewhere which benefits Putin. He’s actually been pretty savvy.
That’s not the whole story.
His polarized past allowed him to let opposition fight itself.
His past as a KGB agent led many on the right-wing opposition to claim he is nothing but a relic of the Soviet era, and that his grip on power is a direct result of KGB past, and from that claim that we should not repeat rhe socialist turn or it will be like that forever.
His current leadership in a capitalist country, as well as anti-social policies he took, led many on the Left to claim he’s just the servant of the rich.
Thereby both sides of the opposition saw him as an evil…but at the same time they claimed that if the other side of opposition comes to power, it will be no better, if not worse. Divide and conquer.
I hate Putin. I don’t want Ukrainians to suffer. At the same time America is not the world’s police.
It’s not like the US is supporting Ukraine alone. We just happen to have the best weapons, and a vested interest in containing Putin’s authoritarian ambitions. Providing material support to Ukraine without putting our own boots on the ground is a win all around.
One reason Putin went to such efforts to stop Clinton from winning here is because she knows who he is and was very effective at quietly neutralizing him. Now we’re dealing with his ambitions in action, and we’re not doing it alone.
Right but how is it we are held accountable every time our fucked political system puts Ukraine in jeopardy. If my neighbor was losing his house and I paid his rent so he could stay another month who the fuck would expect me to keep supporting them indefinitely?
I would challenge our media to say it how it is, “Ukraine may fall and Americans can do nothing to stop it.”
If your neighbor ends up homeless, what do you he’ll do to survive? Anything? Do you think that maybe helping your neighbor might contribute to the health and safety of your community better than if you leave him in desperate straits?
But let’s make the metaphor match the situation a little closer. Your neighbor across the street is dealing with another neighbor who wants their property. They won’t sell, so the other neighbor is getting violent to get their way. Not your problem, right? Not until that neighbor comes after you, and with your arsenal they wouldn’t dare do that, right? That will certainly help keep the peace in the neighborhood.
Being a good neighbor means more than just ignoring what’s happening on the other side of the fence. Strong communities look out for each other and help where they can. That applies internationally as well as locally.
My international friends, America is struggling. Fascism is at our door step. I love you very much but we were never very good at the role of ‘world cop’, which we made up, anyway. Superman is a God. Batman is the joker.
We have the means. We only lack the will, because the fascists in our government want to emulate Putin. Becoming isolationist won’t solve our problems. Punching our own Nazis before the rest of the world has to do it for us is the only way.
If we go the way of Nazi Germany, we’ll deserve the same treatment we have to them.
I’m only arguing America is not on the hook for any funding they didn’t get. Not that it’s right or good. When we look in the mirror though we have to see that person and tell them, we need help.
America is not on the hook
But we are on the hook because we will absolutely have to deal with the consequences in the future. Not stopping Russia here, in Ukraine, will reverberate for decades.
False dichotomy. Spending money helping Ukraine is not helping fascists at home.
Never said it was. So… ???
What you said came across that way to me.