While Turkish immigrants in the Marxloh neighborhood of Duisburg had until now mostly voted for the Social Democratic party (SPD, center-left), they have gradually been drawn to the anti-immigration and conservative rhetoric of the far right.
Or maybe just normal citizens that don’t want illegal immigrant around ? I mean, as far as I know AfD (and every other supposely anti immigration Right wing party) want to not have illegal immigrant, they don’t really care about legal immigrant that follow the local laws and are integrated in the society.
Romania & Bulgaria are EU members. Their citizens can go whenever the fuck they want within the 27 member-states. Unlike Turkish, & especially the parents of these AfD members, who probably came to Germany undocumented…
To give this a little context :in 2023 there was a Secret meeting between afd officials and far right extremists where they discussed the deportation (remigration is a euphemism used to mask the inhumanity that is evoked here) of millions of immigrants and citizens.
After huge backlash and demonstrations in 23/24 the party started to embrace the term and wove it into their official party line, not unlike ‘project 2025’ from maga.
So no, it is not ‘concerned citizens’ that just want to protect society from ‘criminals’, they are racist, dehumanizing bigots who are planning fascist deportations of ‘undesirables’, not exclusive to immigrants but also including citizens, also not unlike ICE and MAGA are acting at the moment. Nevermind that at least in Germany this goes against basic constitutional law including article 1 of the German constitution:
“Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it is the duty of all state authority.”
My wife is a “legal migrant”. That’s bullshit they hate her too. They are making it almost impossible to have papers. The issue with people like you is that they’re too stupid to realize they’re destroying people’s life and that they’re existence is increasing overall human suffering
My wife is a “legal migrant”. That’s bullshit they hate her too.
People tends to note the illegal immigrants that live that live by petty (or big) crimes, not your wife that is a good citizen.
And it is too easy to associate your wife with the illegals since I suppose your wife will not go around with is passport or any other documents pinned to her back for everyone to read.
They are making it almost impossible to have papers.
Oh yes, the concept of consequence.
The issue with people like you is that they’re too stupid to realize they’re destroying people’s life and that they’re existence is increasing overall human suffering
Oh well, I maybe am stupid like you say, but I can understand that having an always increasing number of immigrants that are on welfare is not sustainable for any country. Do you want your country (and your life) ruined by illegal immigrants on welfare ? Be my guest but keep the insults for people who do not want it for yourself.
Public investment. I mean you’re a retard who think immigrants steal jobs. Guess what, idiot, an immigrant with a job will re-inject the money in the real economy, unlike the crony politicians and rich people you’re simping for
There’s no such thing as IlleGal immigrant, retard. You just want germany for germans. The very concept is the politically correct version of ethnic clainsing, but the idea is still to “remigrate” people you deem unacceptable. Nobody’s fooled. Not even you.
No, I want my country for people who respect the laws of my country.
If they don’t, they can simply go somewhere else if they are not Italians or go to jail if they are Italians.
but the idea is still to “remigrate” people you deem unacceptable.
What a monster I am to want to “remigrate” people who arrive here, live by petty crimes, don’t want to be part of the society and pretend to impose their laws to the country hosting them.
Let my ask you one thing: would do like it if I would come to your home, trash it and impose my rules to you in your own home ?
I always love that ‘home’ metaphor, so let’s roll with it.
So, suppose somebody is coming into my home and starts shitting in the living room. I do not like that.
But, here’s the thing: I feel morally obliged to let him shit in my living room and spend resources to better that person, when he’s gonna be lynched by an angry mob on the outside as an alternative.
That is the moral question that determines what kind of human being one is: do you help people that are in danger, even if they stink, shit in your living room or otherwise inconvenience you? I hope for sure I am the person who helps.
And, to be honest, it is also not that strange, that he starts shitting in my living room, when I deny him access to the toilet the second he enters my home ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“Don’t want to be part of society” they took 1 years to refuse my wife visa, idiot. It’s society and scum like yourself who rejects them, not the other way around.
Oh yes, I now understand the type of person you are.
You are the kind of person who think that once him and is house are ok, then everything else can crumble and it is not his problem, like he is not part of the society he lives in.
Well, bad news for you: keep thinking like this and you and your contry will end like many places in southern Italy where they have beautifull homes (inside) that are in ruin on the outside because who care to maintain what is not mine and, for example, in the summer they have not water because “hey it is not my fucking problem that the guys who need to maintain the water system do their work”.
“Don’t want to be part of society” they took 1 years to refuse my wife visa, idiot. It’s society and scum like yourself who rejects them, not the other way around.
You can always choose to go where they don’t care about laws… after all “a country is not a home”, correct ?
Well, you don’t really know much then. The AfD is having serious internal talks about kicking out people with a German passport, simply for being gay/trans/wrong shade of white/random bullshit reason. They are fascists, for real…
Which will be shot down as soon as they will try it, if your legal system is decent as I think it is and you were able to solve the problems that increase their popularity.
They are fascists, for real…
Yes, but their growth is a consequence, not the cause.
No, that’s what party apparatchik tell the press but thats juat bullshit becase they’re ckwards and not brave enough to wear their racist entitled shitty beliefs on their sleeve
Ottoman Empire legacy:
Or maybe just normal citizens that don’t want illegal immigrant around ? I mean, as far as I know AfD (and every other supposely anti immigration Right wing party) want to not have illegal immigrant, they don’t really care about legal immigrant that follow the local laws and are integrated in the society.
Romania & Bulgaria are EU members. Their citizens can go whenever the fuck they want within the 27 member-states. Unlike Turkish, & especially the parents of these AfD members, who probably came to Germany undocumented…
My friend, the AfD wants to “remigrate” immigrants that are so well integrated that they have German citizenship 🙄
To give this a little context :in 2023 there was a Secret meeting between afd officials and far right extremists where they discussed the deportation (remigration is a euphemism used to mask the inhumanity that is evoked here) of millions of immigrants and citizens.
After huge backlash and demonstrations in 23/24 the party started to embrace the term and wove it into their official party line, not unlike ‘project 2025’ from maga.
So no, it is not ‘concerned citizens’ that just want to protect society from ‘criminals’, they are racist, dehumanizing bigots who are planning fascist deportations of ‘undesirables’, not exclusive to immigrants but also including citizens, also not unlike ICE and MAGA are acting at the moment. Nevermind that at least in Germany this goes against basic constitutional law including article 1 of the German constitution:
My wife is a “legal migrant”. That’s bullshit they hate her too. They are making it almost impossible to have papers. The issue with people like you is that they’re too stupid to realize they’re destroying people’s life and that they’re existence is increasing overall human suffering
Cazzo fascista puta
People tends to note the illegal immigrants that live that live by petty (or big) crimes, not your wife that is a good citizen.
And it is too easy to associate your wife with the illegals since I suppose your wife will not go around with is passport or any other documents pinned to her back for everyone to read.
Oh yes, the concept of consequence.
Oh well, I maybe am stupid like you say, but I can understand that having an always increasing number of immigrants that are on welfare is not sustainable for any country. Do you want your country (and your life) ruined by illegal immigrants on welfare ? Be my guest but keep the insults for people who do not want it for yourself.
You’re a brainwashed retard lmao. Give immigrants jobs and they won’t be on welfare, retard.
Ok, how do you suppose to create all these jobs ?
The usual way dumbass. Immigrants are also workers and consumers. They create more jobs than your crony nazi politicians
That is, Nobel Prize winner ?
BTW, typical response from someone who suggests something without any fucking idea of how to do it.
Public investment. I mean you’re a retard who think immigrants steal jobs. Guess what, idiot, an immigrant with a job will re-inject the money in the real economy, unlike the crony politicians and rich people you’re simping for
Come on, you can do better than repeating these false talking points.
Most immigrants are not on welfare, the exception being asylum seekers that are legally prohibited from working, so they have no other choice.
But that is only a small minority and most immigrants pay way more into the social system then they will ever get out of it.
And “illegal” immigrants are certainly not on welfare 🙄
There’s no such thing as IlleGal immigrant, retard. You just want germany for germans. The very concept is the politically correct version of ethnic clainsing, but the idea is still to “remigrate” people you deem unacceptable. Nobody’s fooled. Not even you.
No, I want my country for people who respect the laws of my country.
If they don’t, they can simply go somewhere else if they are not Italians or go to jail if they are Italians.
What a monster I am to want to “remigrate” people who arrive here, live by petty crimes, don’t want to be part of the society and pretend to impose their laws to the country hosting them.
Let my ask you one thing: would do like it if I would come to your home, trash it and impose my rules to you in your own home ?
I always love that ‘home’ metaphor, so let’s roll with it.
So, suppose somebody is coming into my home and starts shitting in the living room. I do not like that.
But, here’s the thing: I feel morally obliged to let him shit in my living room and spend resources to better that person, when he’s gonna be lynched by an angry mob on the outside as an alternative.
That is the moral question that determines what kind of human being one is: do you help people that are in danger, even if they stink, shit in your living room or otherwise inconvenience you? I hope for sure I am the person who helps.
And, to be honest, it is also not that strange, that he starts shitting in my living room, when I deny him access to the toilet the second he enters my home ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A country isn’t a home you dumbass nazi.
“Don’t want to be part of society” they took 1 years to refuse my wife visa, idiot. It’s society and scum like yourself who rejects them, not the other way around.
Oh yes, I now understand the type of person you are.
You are the kind of person who think that once him and is house are ok, then everything else can crumble and it is not his problem, like he is not part of the society he lives in.
Well, bad news for you: keep thinking like this and you and your contry will end like many places in southern Italy where they have beautifull homes (inside) that are in ruin on the outside because who care to maintain what is not mine and, for example, in the summer they have not water because “hey it is not my fucking problem that the guys who need to maintain the water system do their work”.
You can always choose to go where they don’t care about laws… after all “a country is not a home”, correct ?
Yeah whatever if she’s taken away from me I’m killing a racist
Well, you don’t really know much then. The AfD is having serious internal talks about kicking out people with a German passport, simply for being gay/trans/wrong shade of white/random bullshit reason. They are fascists, for real…
Which will be shot down as soon as they will try it, if your legal system is decent as I think it is and you were able to solve the problems that increase their popularity.
Yes, but their growth is a consequence, not the cause.
No, that’s what party apparatchik tell the press but thats juat bullshit becase they’re ckwards and not brave enough to wear their racist entitled shitty beliefs on their sleeve
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