I can never tell if the comments on these posts are made ironically or if there really is a large percentage of people who think being a landlord is a real job
I feel like landlord can be a real job, if you actually maintain and upgrade the property and charging a reasonable price. That’s different than a landowner who pays some schmuck to manage it for them, pays the manager shit and charges the tenants unreasonable sums simply bc they can.
Unironically like my landlord. He leaves me alone, I leave him alone, and my rent only went up $50 in the 3 years I’ve been here. He’s fixed 1 major issue in that time because I take care of my shit.
Personally, the less interaction I have to have with my liegelord landlord, the better.
But it doesn’t stop most of them from being money grabbing assholes. But the real problem is those speculative investment house flippers putting $10000 and a 6-pack into a home and marking it up 50%
I’ve been renting my entire adult life and I’ve required maybe six hours of effort from my landlords in that time. It would take thousands of properties to keep someone honestly employed full time managing them.
Idk people like you or me might not take up a lot of maintenance time but I had property manager previously who was also a landlord who was actually there all the time in a building of around 13 units doing actual work. He only had one other building as far as I know and kept pretty busy. But then, he wasn’t a “landlord” in the sense we’re discussing. He owned the buildings and maintained them.
There are fewer good landlords than bad ones, but the good ones work hard to maintain their investment and provide homes to families despite it being a liability. These properties are majority purchased on loans, after all.
I agree that not all landlords are bad (and not all tenants are good) but I have a hard time believing anyone becomes a landlord to “provide homes to families”. It’s an investment, a source of income.
A majority of the white collar people I work with brag about how many homes they own and rent because it’s the best investment they ever made without having to put much work into it. One of them rents out his deceased mother’s house left to him in a will for $9000 a month to a family of like 12 with 4 generations in it and it’s only like a 4-5 bedroom house.
He isn’t doing it to provide, he’s doing it because it’s good money. Stocks don’t get you that instant cash back like renting does.
God I hope it’s a bubble and I hope they all end up destitute trying to sell the houses. I don’t even fucking care if I get it worse, I can’t compete, and they all have like 3+ houses a piece.
Sure my direct acknowledgement of it is anecdotal but it doesn’t change the fact that first time home buyers are way down and people buying property for investing are practically an all time high. In Canada investor buying is a third of all house purchases and at best they will rent for additional profit.
Edit: also what the fuck does that even mean? Literally just added nothing to the conversation and strawmam for what?
That’s not how people talk and you don’t seem smart for saying it.
If you buy 3 homes (and the land beneath it) for roughly 300k USD, which is a very very low estimate, on a 15 year loan and pay more than 4 or 5% interest then you need to make 2,219.06 to 2,372.38 a month for the minimum payment before figuring costs of insurance and costs of maintenance like painting, doors, replacing heat tape on water lines, sometimes replacing entire walls, windows, fixtures, or insulation, pest control, roofing every couple of years. You also have to pay estimated taxes every quarter. If one of your homes sits empty or your renters are late then you are at a deficit. If you evict then you’ll end up covering power and water as well. It’s not all that profitable on the small scale, absolutely feels like charity if you’re charging less than $1400.
But the thing is, if nobody buys those homes, then they aren’t on the market for rent. So then where do people live? Luckily, low income housing has become more available across the USA, but it’s definitely not the greatest community to raise children.
Ironic humor isn’t a thing. If someone says something and then backpedals and says it was ironic, it’s a lie and they’re just scared of being judged for takes they know are stupid. It could be satire or sarcasm, but considering how landlord meme subreddits are I really doubt it
I think There are some genuine humour/satire cases, but on the whole I agree that ironic humour leaves the door open to actual bad actors. We’ve got to be able to drop the mask and say that no really landlords have no right to complain
I can never tell if the comments on these posts are made ironically or if there really is a large percentage of people who think being a landlord is a real job
Landlords should get a real job. Like day trader.
I feel like landlord can be a real job, if you actually maintain and upgrade the property and charging a reasonable price. That’s different than a landowner who pays some schmuck to manage it for them, pays the manager shit and charges the tenants unreasonable sums simply bc they can.
Unironically like my landlord. He leaves me alone, I leave him alone, and my rent only went up $50 in the 3 years I’ve been here. He’s fixed 1 major issue in that time because I take care of my shit.
Personally, the less interaction I have to have with my
liegelordlandlord, the better.But it doesn’t stop most of them from being money grabbing assholes. But the real problem is those speculative investment house flippers putting $10000 and a 6-pack into a home and marking it up 50%
And the fucking zoning committees ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
I’ve been renting my entire adult life and I’ve required maybe six hours of effort from my landlords in that time. It would take thousands of properties to keep someone honestly employed full time managing them.
Idk people like you or me might not take up a lot of maintenance time but I had property manager previously who was also a landlord who was actually there all the time in a building of around 13 units doing actual work. He only had one other building as far as I know and kept pretty busy. But then, he wasn’t a “landlord” in the sense we’re discussing. He owned the buildings and maintained them.
Lol depends on the community. In this thread I’m pretty sure they are all sarcastic
There are fewer good landlords than bad ones, but the good ones work hard to maintain their investment and provide homes to families despite it being a liability. These properties are majority purchased on loans, after all.
I agree that not all landlords are bad (and not all tenants are good) but I have a hard time believing anyone becomes a landlord to “provide homes to families”. It’s an investment, a source of income.
A majority of the white collar people I work with brag about how many homes they own and rent because it’s the best investment they ever made without having to put much work into it. One of them rents out his deceased mother’s house left to him in a will for $9000 a month to a family of like 12 with 4 generations in it and it’s only like a 4-5 bedroom house.
He isn’t doing it to provide, he’s doing it because it’s good money. Stocks don’t get you that instant cash back like renting does.
God I hope it’s a bubble and I hope they all end up destitute trying to sell the houses. I don’t even fucking care if I get it worse, I can’t compete, and they all have like 3+ houses a piece.
Anecdotal evidence and strawman
Sure my direct acknowledgement of it is anecdotal but it doesn’t change the fact that first time home buyers are way down and people buying property for investing are practically an all time high. In Canada investor buying is a third of all house purchases and at best they will rent for additional profit.
Edit: also what the fuck does that even mean? Literally just added nothing to the conversation and strawmam for what? That’s not how people talk and you don’t seem smart for saying it.
If you buy 3 homes (and the land beneath it) for roughly 300k USD, which is a very very low estimate, on a 15 year loan and pay more than 4 or 5% interest then you need to make 2,219.06 to 2,372.38 a month for the minimum payment before figuring costs of insurance and costs of maintenance like painting, doors, replacing heat tape on water lines, sometimes replacing entire walls, windows, fixtures, or insulation, pest control, roofing every couple of years. You also have to pay estimated taxes every quarter. If one of your homes sits empty or your renters are late then you are at a deficit. If you evict then you’ll end up covering power and water as well. It’s not all that profitable on the small scale, absolutely feels like charity if you’re charging less than $1400.
But the thing is, if nobody buys those homes, then they aren’t on the market for rent. So then where do people live? Luckily, low income housing has become more available across the USA, but it’s definitely not the greatest community to raise children.
Ironic humor isn’t a thing. If someone says something and then backpedals and says it was ironic, it’s a lie and they’re just scared of being judged for takes they know are stupid. It could be satire or sarcasm, but considering how landlord meme subreddits are I really doubt it
The humor understander has entered the thread.
I think There are some genuine humour/satire cases, but on the whole I agree that ironic humour leaves the door open to actual bad actors. We’ve got to be able to drop the mask and say that no really landlords have no right to complain