“If you're rooting against the president, you are rooting against the nation,” the Pennsylvania Democratic senator told ABC “This Week” co-anchor Jonathan Karl.
There are lots of them. And they were known before he ran. Not to the general public of course. But people that knew him knew he was an asshole. The problem being twofold. The public was never told who he really was. They were successfully sold a fabrication . And he was running against a bigger asshole.
This is what the left is spectacularly good and bad at.
They sell you an image of perfection because that’s what people want to see.
Except it isn’t real, it never is. They sell you everybody as if they’re all sanders.
And then the rug pull. Happens almost every fucking time.
They’re either beholden to billionaires interests, or worse.
You can tell the few that REALLY are good people. The whole party rallies together to stop them. AOC’s recent failed appointment, sanders and Hillary’s backhanded deal to keep him out.
There’s no winning here, the psychopaths have won.
I voted for Sanders twice. He lost the popular vote. There was no back handed backroom deal. As someone who is pragmatically anarchist I don’t like the system and believe things should be more granular and local as a rule. Which would go a long way to solving this exact problem. You generally have a much better idea of people in your local community and who they are. Not always. But generally.
…are you saying you believe we had a fair democratic primary when Bernie ran against Hillary? You genuinely don’t believe the Democratic Party stacked the deck against him so that the candidate they picked (Hillary) received the nomination?
Of course the deck was stacked against a challenger going into an establishment party primarily. Sanders understood this going in. Why didn’t you? And even with all that Sanders still did exceptionally well. You’re taking away the wrong lesson from this. And despite the fact that I think that the primary should be made more democratic and less stacked against Outsiders and Challengers. The Democratic party did not break their own rules as a lower bar as that may be. Outside of that ghoul Wasserman Schultz who was ousted from party leadership and should have been kicked from the party as a whole over it.
I truly like sanders. But so many of his supporters are so unlike him. And that’s the problem. Easily manipulated and misled. Turned against the very party that he is a member of and works with. Undermining his ability to actually accomplish anything for them. Out of some sort of misguided ax grinding but not even he wants or has asked.
That’s more or less what I implied/said. Regardless, one can’t sue someone far breeching a contract they didn’t breach. Because you don’t like the contract after the fact. Sanders knew what he was doing and what would likely happen. And he went on to do what he could to help people with the democratic party. Dispute all his misguided “supporters” attacking it. Or even supporting those opposed to him.
Sanders supporters literally sued the DNC and the case was dismissed by DNC legal counsel arguing they were under no obligation to enact the will of the people and had every right to make backroom
Deals in dark rooms filled with cigar smoke and rich old men.
We are living in fascism right now. Both parties are owned by the same wall street military and prison industry profiteers who also control all the main stream legacy media outlets. The idea that our democratic system still functions is foolishly naive
Donald Trump sues people all the time for things they never did. Bringing a suit doesn’t necessarily mean something happened.
I believe the DNC did not violate their own rules during the primary. That is a low bar. I think there’s plenty things we could do to make the primary more democratic. But the DNC didn’t break their rules just to get Hillary elected. The rules were designed to get people like Hillary elected.
Lawyers argue the easiest route they have. They’re there to win a case, not have a debate and sway an audience to their righteousness. If the party is under no obligation to be fair, that’s an easy solution and they don’t need to make more difficult subjective arguments about fairness.
He’s just like Eric Adams
I wonder what skeletons are in his closet
There are lots of them. And they were known before he ran. Not to the general public of course. But people that knew him knew he was an asshole. The problem being twofold. The public was never told who he really was. They were successfully sold a fabrication . And he was running against a bigger asshole.
This is what the left is spectacularly good and bad at.
They sell you an image of perfection because that’s what people want to see.
Except it isn’t real, it never is. They sell you everybody as if they’re all sanders.
And then the rug pull. Happens almost every fucking time.
They’re either beholden to billionaires interests, or worse.
You can tell the few that REALLY are good people. The whole party rallies together to stop them. AOC’s recent failed appointment, sanders and Hillary’s backhanded deal to keep him out.
There’s no winning here, the psychopaths have won.
I voted for Sanders twice. He lost the popular vote. There was no back handed backroom deal. As someone who is pragmatically anarchist I don’t like the system and believe things should be more granular and local as a rule. Which would go a long way to solving this exact problem. You generally have a much better idea of people in your local community and who they are. Not always. But generally.
…are you saying you believe we had a fair democratic primary when Bernie ran against Hillary? You genuinely don’t believe the Democratic Party stacked the deck against him so that the candidate they picked (Hillary) received the nomination?
Of course the deck was stacked against a challenger going into an establishment party primarily. Sanders understood this going in. Why didn’t you? And even with all that Sanders still did exceptionally well. You’re taking away the wrong lesson from this. And despite the fact that I think that the primary should be made more democratic and less stacked against Outsiders and Challengers. The Democratic party did not break their own rules as a lower bar as that may be. Outside of that ghoul Wasserman Schultz who was ousted from party leadership and should have been kicked from the party as a whole over it.
I truly like sanders. But so many of his supporters are so unlike him. And that’s the problem. Easily manipulated and misled. Turned against the very party that he is a member of and works with. Undermining his ability to actually accomplish anything for them. Out of some sort of misguided ax grinding but not even he wants or has asked.
They may not have broken their own rules, but maybe their own rules are the problem.
That’s more or less what I implied/said. Regardless, one can’t sue someone far breeching a contract they didn’t breach. Because you don’t like the contract after the fact. Sanders knew what he was doing and what would likely happen. And he went on to do what he could to help people with the democratic party. Dispute all his misguided “supporters” attacking it. Or even supporting those opposed to him.
Fair, I misunderstood what you meant.
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Sanders supporters literally sued the DNC and the case was dismissed by DNC legal counsel arguing they were under no obligation to enact the will of the people and had every right to make backroom Deals in dark rooms filled with cigar smoke and rich old men. We are living in fascism right now. Both parties are owned by the same wall street military and prison industry profiteers who also control all the main stream legacy media outlets. The idea that our democratic system still functions is foolishly naive
Donald Trump sues people all the time for things they never did. Bringing a suit doesn’t necessarily mean something happened.
I believe the DNC did not violate their own rules during the primary. That is a low bar. I think there’s plenty things we could do to make the primary more democratic. But the DNC didn’t break their rules just to get Hillary elected. The rules were designed to get people like Hillary elected.
Lawyers argue the easiest route they have. They’re there to win a case, not have a debate and sway an audience to their righteousness. If the party is under no obligation to be fair, that’s an easy solution and they don’t need to make more difficult subjective arguments about fairness.
I frankly could not care less if he was an asshole or not. That’s not what disappoints me.