• Don_Dickle@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    You make it sound like incels become incels because they weren’t loved enough during childhood.

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      Being an unloved —or worse, abused— child is quite often the root cause of a vast number of affective and personality disorders people develop later on as an adult.

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        2 months ago

        That is total bullshit. My first bf before I turned lesbian would beat me and rape me almost daily to the point I bought a gun to commit suicide. I never used it on myself or him but I broke up with him and moved to the west coast. I am just saying that because I don’t hate men…hell I even find some attractive. But it did not make me hate or whatever an entire gender

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          What is exactly the bullshit part about what I said? That a bad childhood usually leads to a fucked up adulthood? Because it does. Of course, everyone copes with trauma or a tough childhood differently, and some people do move on to lead surprisingly well adjusted grown-up lives. But for the ones that don’t, having a poor childhood experience is a very common factor.

          It took me 2 mins to find this research paper to evidence what I’m saying: https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-016-2906-3

          I could probably find a few dozen more if I spent more time looking.

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            Unless you are a follower even in your own mind does not give you the excuse. Cite me one thing where a person grew up in a good child hood and not become normal? Without his or hers thoughts playing into it.

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              I’m not saying a traumatic childhood is a good reason to dismiss someone’s crimes as an adult. Whether you had the best life as a kid or not, hate crimes must be punished all the same.

              Our responsibility as a society in all of this should be to give these people the support and education they need before they find it in these cults of hate. This is where we’re failing big time.

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      That’s what put me on track to that mindset back when I was in school. I was short and shy and a little weird so I was bullied constantly and girls wouldn’t even talk to me. A large part of that bullying was directed at the fact that I didn’t have a girlfriend which led to me being resentful towards women because I felt like they weren’t even giving me a chance. No one ever supported me, not even my “friends”. I felt stuck in that situation and saw no way to change things which led me to be very hateful. Fortunately I got into a different environment when I was in college with kinder people who accepted me and was able to pull out of it. A lot of people are not that lucky or get too deep in the hole to pull themselves out of even if given the chance.