• HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Just a depressing reminder.

    Russia holds considerable defense in depth. ~20km depth is not alot in area or value. Moral hit is considerable, puts Russia on the defensive in one area, but Ukraine has not even pushed Russia out of their initial gains or reclaimed its border.

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      3 months ago

      I don’t think it’s a depressing reminder… not like Ukraine is going to march to Moscow.

      It’s just reminding Russia that Ukraine is not afraid to hit back and forcing Russia to spend resources on defence. I doubt Ukraine will seriously try to hold this territory, just make it costly to retake.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        not like Ukraine is going to march to Moscow.

        Flash forward to one year from now. Headlines read “Ukraine takes Moscow. Putin found dead.”

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        3 months ago

        You’re right, I’m doubtful they will match on Moscow - won’t be surprised if they drone it though.

        Just keeping in mind this isn’t a war ending stellar breakthrough that many believe - its a blow for Russia, a boost for Ukraine, fighting in a new field around a new village. Russia has been invaded plenty of times, but that depth is a killer.

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          3 months ago

          Russia has been invaded plenty of times

          With F-16s, HIMARS, and drones?

          Modern warfare isn’t the same as Germany in WW2.

          • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            No, with twin engine bombers, tanks, diesel trucks and radios after Napoleon failed.

            Don’t ever assume your tech is what makes old issues non-existent, can guarantee they thought the same as their cutting edge tech. Mud still sucks, logistics and supply are still vulnerable, and forces can get spread out.

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            3 months ago

            But shouldn’t the advancements of technology even out? Basically: While Ukraine has more advanced weapons then WW2 Germany, also Russia does. So at the end of the day this is still kind of a David vs Goliath situation

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      3 months ago

      Russia holds considerable defense in depth.

      I think you have no proofs. As a Russian, it’s insane to assume Russia would spend resources on keeping any meaningful defense far from borders. And from places Putin often visits, of course.