PSA (?): just got this popup in Firefox when i was on an amazon product page. looked into it a bit because it seemed weird and it turns out if you click the big “yes, try it” button, you agree to mandatory binding arbitration with Fakespot and you waive your right to bring a class action lawsuit against them. this is awesome thank you so much mozilla very cool

https://queer.party/@m04/112872517189786676

So, Mozilla adds an AI review features for products you view using Firefox. Other than being very useless, it’s T&C are as anti-consumer as it possibly can be. It’s like mozilla saying directly “we don’t care about your privacy”.

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      Best I can do is accepting three options: “Yes,” “No,” and “Remind me later.”

      “Not now” or “No, I don’t want this awesome feature” bullshit infuriates me.

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      Yeah, corporate dark patterns really don’t respect consent. When would you like to know more: Now, or Later?

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        Though I don’t mind the “accept, deny, ask me again later” for when something seems interesting but I don’t want to put the effort into looking into it right at the moment but don’t want to click yes without looking into it.

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    Why not just be a web browser and leave stuff like this to browser extensions?
    Oh right, you enshittified yourself.

    Edit to add: Why give them money when they apparently already have too much of it from corporate inputs (most of it from Google)? I think they ask us for donations in order to retain their non-profit image, for PR purposes.

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    didn’t the Firefox management say they would focus on their core product rather than random little services like this

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      At this point, I’m glad I switched to Mull on my phone. It took a bit of overcoming the resistance of using Firefox for decades (Stockholm syndrome), but I don’t miss Firefox one bit.

      Now I need to do that on my desktop, but I’m still shopping. Librewolf? Palemoon? Ice Weasel? What are folks here trying out these days?

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        Isn’t Mull basicslly Firefox since it’s just a Firefox-based fork? The UI seems to be identical to me - don’t notice any other differences on my phone

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          Isn’t Mull basicslly Firefox since it’s just a Firefox-based fork?

          I don’t understand why that would be a bad thing. If Firefox starts to enshittify then a fork from before the enshittification is exactly what I want.

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            It’s not - quite the contrary. I was just wondering what the commenter that I replied to meant when they said that it took them some getting used to. For me, it’s just a slight change in design and a different icon

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          Yes, it’s Firefox without the bullshit.

          It’s ironic that Firefox started the same way, actually.

          When Netscape open sourced its browser and then fucked it up, some folks took the source code and built “Phoenix,” much, much later becoming Firefox.

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    What are the right settings to disable that crap via user.js? I assume this is done via hidden extension, like Pocket.

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    The real reason people want to revoke the second amendment is so Mozilla will stop constantly pointing guns at their own feet.

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    https://www.fakespot.com/privacy-policy

    Internet or other electronic network activity (e.g., browsing history, search history, information regarding an individual’s interaction with an internet website, application, or advertisement, and online viewing activities)

    Category of Third Parties to Whom Personal Information is Sold and/or Shared: Advertising partners, Service providers

    Just a snippet of the privacy policy. There’s other bad stuff too like location tracking. It’s also all ran through Google analytics.

    So much for a privacy respecting Mozilla

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    AI shit alone, I never understood the urge to build a whole OS in the browser. I want my browser to view websites. If I want more, then I can install extensions. I’d rather them release this as some sort of “official” extension. Might switch to LibreWolf (do you have any other suggestions?)

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    I’ve used Firefox since it was released. I will be considering other browsers due to this. I do not want AI in my products.

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    I know … But people actually literally want this.

    Maybe FF is what we install for normies while we use forks for other flavours.

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      But people actually literally want this.

      No-one except advertisers want this.

      Most people simply do not care at all.

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          Because Mozilla takes a metric shitload of your data via fakespot such as (but not limited to)

          Internet or other electronic network activity (e.g., browsing history, search history, information regarding an individual’s interaction with an internet website, application, or advertisement, and online viewing activities)

          https://www.fakespot.com/privacy-policy

          And then sells it to advertisers

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        Nice. Thank you. For those who don’t click the link, it appears you can disable by setting these flags:

        browser.shopping.experience2023.active

        and:

        browser.shopping.experience2023.survey.enabled

        To false.

        EDIT: On finally getting back to my desktop and disabling these, it looks like there’s a bunch of these browser.shopping.experience2023 flags. Some of them set to true, others false, I just set them all to false.

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    FakeSpot is a hilarious company run by trend chasers, “crypto enthusiasts and web3 believers.”

    If Mozilla chasing the AI trend isn’t bad enough, and their privacy policy doesn’t hurt your soul, FakeSpot also only works on the biggest and most predatory platforms (Walmart and Amazon).

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      FakeSpot also only works on the biggest and most predatory platforms (Walmart and Amazon).

      that also happen to be by far the most popular, and also where you are the mos likely to see fake reviews

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        “If the privacy invasion and corporate trend chasing doesn’t hurt your soul”?

        Did you miss the privacy invasion where Mozilla now sells private data to advertising companies directly?