The GOP needs to convince voters that Donald Trump and JD Vance are regular guys, and, manifestly, they are not.

It would be strange for Democrats to attack the Republican presidential ticket for being ā€œweirdā€ if it werenā€™t true. But those men are getting weirder by the day.

Former president Donald Trumpā€™s running mate, Sen. JD Vance (Ohio), isĀ off to a wobbly start. AĀ Harris 2024 campaignĀ email sent on Friday was headlined, ā€œJD Vance Is a Creep (Who Wants to Ban Abortion Nationwide).ā€ The statement continued, ā€œJD Vance is weird. Voters know it ā€“ Vance is the most unpopular VP pick in decades.ā€

It was bad enough when footage resurfaced of a 2021 interview in which Vance called Democrats ā€œa bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that theyā€™ve made.ā€ Things got worse last week whenĀ Vance offered a non-apology, blaming ā€œpeopleā€ for ā€œfocusing so much on the sarcasm and not on the substance of what I actually said.ā€

Uh, okay, but that doesnā€™t help at all. The substance ā€” which Vance said he stands by ā€” is asserting that adults without childrenĀ do not deserve an equal sayĀ  in the nationā€™s affairs. Another unearthed clip of VanceĀ showed him arguing that parents, when they vote, should be able to cast an extra ballot for each child in their family who is under voting age. He didnā€™t take that back, either, going only so far as to claim it was a ā€œthought experimentā€ and not a firm policy position.

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    Factually incorrect. In 2022, about 40.26 percent of all family households in the United States had their own children under age 18 living in the household. To be clear, when I say ā€œchildrenā€, I mean by age too, Iā€™m not concerned about giving 80 yr-olds with 50yr-old children more voting power.

    Your assertion was that, ā€œParents have a greater stake in our nations futureā€. Do people suddenly stop caring about the future when their children move out? Perhaps you donā€™t think parents of adult children should have extra votes but you suggested that they care more about the future and the totality of people who have children is still greater than those who do not, putting that class in the driverā€™s seat.

    talking like this just tells me youā€™re unserious about this conversation. I have no further desire to engage with you

    More like your stances are weak and unsupportable and you want an easy exit.

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      My stances are perfectly supportable, but I have no desire to debate with immature people on the internet

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        Your stance is pathetically weak. There is no justification for altering constitutional rights to give a subset of people political advantage who btw already get billions of dollars in tax incentives every year. You already get paid to have children but thatā€™s not enough, you want even more: outsized political power.

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        In order for your stance to be correct, not only do we have to have it in our nature to care more about the future, if we have kids, as well as that, what they think is good for the future, is.

        Show proof of these things, and then your argument hold water. Until then this all just what seems like it should be true to you.