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    lol, he’s gonna find out real quick, what applies to, and is allowed for Trump doesn’t apply to anyone else

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      Cannon’s ruling was that the entire concept of the DoJ appointing a special prosecutor is unconstitutional. Following that same logic, anyone who has ever been the subject of a special prosecutor investigation that was later adjudicated guilty can and should have their convictions thrown out.

      That’s why Hunter is saying his case should be thrown out. He was investigated by a special prosecutor on behalf of the Department of Justice. That investigator ruled he broke the law when he had the temerity to own a firearm while he was using illegal drugs, and then the case went to court.

      Under Cannon’s ruling, Hunter has got every right to ask for this. So does Bill Clinton for Whitewater. And the ghost of Richard Nixon for Watergate. Anyone who was ever investigated by a special prosecutor appointed by the DoJ who then faced any sort of legal consequences for their actions can now ask to have their convictions overturned on these grounds.

      Cannon’s ruling is a pretty intense case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater with regards to judicial procedure, and it’s likely to be reversed by the appeals court. On the other hand, her ruling was only meant to delay the trial, which worked flawlessly. When her peers in the appeals court reverse the ruling and remove her from the bench for it or any other reason, look forward to seeing her as a talking head on conservative news networks. She’s certainly earned her place there.

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        I may have a flawed understanding, but I think it’s worse than that. She’s actually trying to get the case dismissed completely because of a catch she put in the special counsel stuff. That catch being that the thing that illegal about the special counsel is not the special counsel itself, but rather that the person pursuing special counsel should be an elected official.

        Now I think this still does a number on our legal system and I don’t know enough about Hunters counsel here to say if that applies, but this was suggested to her and it’s a way to target throwing out trumps specific case while retaining the right to use special counsel elsewhere.

        I wish I were joking but the Supreme Court can and likely will make yet another carve out in the law so that the law can survive but is severely crippled in a way that massively benefits Trump.

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            It’s not that the special counsel themselves is elected, they’re all appointed. But rather that some of them haven’t been elected at any point which is different. Basically she said that the public never chose to give some of these people power at all so they shouldn’t hold any.

            It doesn’t make any sense but it doesn’t need to. It just needs to cancel trumps case while keeping a way for special counsel to exist

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      The best part is if the question goes up to SCOTUS, it might well get consolidated with Cannon’s dismissal, and they’re considering one legal question in cases against a Trump and a Biden.

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        there has been no “best part” of any of this, there will be no “best part” for anything to come. the scotus corruption is completely out in the open, with no way to put an end to it.

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    I hope this is just the first salvo the Biden’s launch and start using all the ridiculous policies the GOP is setting against them.

    I am middle of the road but registered democrat. I vote for who I think will do the best job in local and national elections.

    I am partially paralyzed and it takes me 1/2 a day to vote. I will always vote because its all we have imo.

    IMO The Electoral college stole the election from Hillary but you don’t see her running around like Kari Lake who is acting this way on purpose so if Trump wins, she will get appointed to a good job in his cabinet.

    Back to Hillary, She won the popular vote by millions and still lost!

    This is what the electoral college did

    She won the popular vote just short of 3 Million!

    Back then we had **249,372,406 people over the age of 18. About 80% of them were eligible to vote

    That is roughly 200k people. 199,497,924. The point is the amount of popular votes should have been a solid win. Not a landslide but solid.

    This makes me very sketched out along with all these new voting districts and restrictions on absentee ballots,

    and some states banning giving people in line a bottle of water or food! Google line warming!

    What if Biden wins by 2 million? Is that a solid win for Trump???

    **Child and Adult Populations 2016

    Age 18 and over

    United States 249,372,462

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      Yes, democrats have to win by a landslide in order to squeak out a victory. Meanwhile, republicans can lose over and over and over and still rise to power. No republican has ever entered the presidency by winning the popular vote in my entire lifetime.

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      That is roughly 200k people. 199,497,924.

      I think you may have meant 200M, or you have 3 extra numbers and a comma that don’t belong lol.

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    I wonder how many people are doing time right now who should be free on this basis.

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    Wasn’t that ruling only for POTUS? Like if Biden drone striked a caravan of terrorists and it took out a US civilian on accident he’s not facing murder charges.

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      Now that Trump ruling. The other Trump ruling.

      Where Judge Aileen Cannon dismissed the Mar-a-Lago documents case because the Special Prosecutor was “unlawfully appointed”.

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      Judge Cannon in the classified documents case just threw out the case saying that the DOJ can’t appoint special counsel and so Trump shouldn’t have been indicted by Jack Smith. Hunter was indicated by a special counsel and so he’s trying to say that he shouldn’t have been indicted either.

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      Not the newest one, it was dismissed on the basis of how the special counsel was appointed.

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      The Supreme Court has been upending a lot recently, it’s giving me whiplash just keeping up with every decision. As others have pointed out, this is because of how the appointment of the special council was made, which is how Trump’s stolen classified documents case was thrown out in court this week. It seems that in the judicial system bending over backwards for Trump, they failed to consider 25 years of precedence and the ramifications to people other than Trump.