• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Ukraine hopes for total retreat from all claimed Ukrainian territory, not a mere stalemate. That’s hardly compromise.

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      4 months ago

      That’s right and as long as US and western allies keep up with deliveries there is a chance for Ukraine to achieve its objectives.

      Ideally leading to Russian collapse.

      Before you get bent out of shape about it is in possible…

      Recent history does demonstrate that invading country that faces a determined opposition will generally have to go home with their dicks tucked.

      How long can Russia spin this shot at home esp as Ukraine is striking critical assets deep within Russia.

      And the west hasn’t even given Ukraine the best shit and permission to use it as needed.

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        4 months ago

        The West has given Ukraine more per year than Russia spends on its entire military, and Russia isn’t using its entire military in this conflict. Russia also hasn’t invaded Ukraine the way the US has invaded each of its failed quagmires. Russia is staying at the border. It’s a well known problem that Ukraine consists of vast wide open fields which are great for farming and impossible to defend. Russia has clearly demonstrated they have no intention of trying, so no one thinks Russia is going to suffer the same kind of defeat as the USA has. That’s just copium based on your refusal to research and understand the situation beyond news headlines.

        The West has given Ukraine most of the good shit at this point. Name some wonder weapons that Ukraine doesn’t have.

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          4 months ago

          Rockets that can reach Moscow 🐸 and keep them coming.

          200 f16

          Big boy drones

          There is a lot we can give Ukraine to make Russian life very uncomfortable for a very long time. There is a lack of will.

          The West has given Ukraine more per year

          Let’s be real most of that money gets wasted on middle man corruption.

          Price of javlins magically quadrupled once us started buying rockets to send to Ukraine lol

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        4 months ago

        Okay Brzezinski. Russia hardly faces a determined opposition: it faces a dwindling supply of forced conscripts.

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          4 months ago

          Well you got nothing to worry about then. Kyiv by winter?

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            4 months ago

            Again, USA intelligence has stated Russia has no intention of taking Kyiv.

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            4 months ago

            I don’t think they even want Kyiv. Western Ukraine is rife of neo-Nazis, making it impossible to occupy long-term.

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              4 months ago

              I thought they were liberating rather than occupying?

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                  4 months ago

                  Seriously. You can show them objective facts from multiple sources from around the world with completely disparate editorial incentives and they’ll just troll you. Then years later you can show them THEIR OWN SIDE admitting that very same thing and even then they’ll just continue as they were with the same profoundly unserious, trite attitude towards the subject. Lol.