300 million lbs of fireworks and 2.7 billion dollars gone in a cloud of smoke.

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    4 months ago

    Please stop with such language, we had enough of it on every mainstream platform.

    I genuinely call for civility here.

    As per the substance, as already mentioned, the production and later disposal of drones does have ecological footprint that is very much not negligible.

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        4 months ago

        I wasn’t the one to claim that, and neither was the person who opposed you, from all I could see.

        There’s just not enough research/calculation done on drones vs. fireworks, and a lot has to be taken into consideration. How often are the drones used? Are they recycled at the end of life? Which materials are used in their production, and what is their source of energy? etc. etc.

        The advantage of fireworks is that they are very simple and use little materials to produce, most of which are safe (but some are not great).

        Drones, on the other hand, require a lot of lithium and cadmium, as well as other basic resources like metal/plastic, silicon etc., and some parts of their manufacturing involve high-end facilities that require a lot of resources to maintain correct conditions. All of this leads to high footprint of their manufacturing, and if you use such drone just a few times for some large-scale swarms and then forget about it for a while, this will get way less ecological than fireworks.

        Don’t get me wrong, the technology is good and drones can absolutely be a superior option. But this heavily depends on how they’re used.

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        I am not saying they are better. I am questioning if they are. Please don’t mistake my question as veiled disagreement, I am not a Xitter user. Someone claimed an objective opinion, and that supposed to have data and a study to back it, but there likely isn’t any yet. I am open to the possibility, I just want to make sure it is actually more ecological. It is objectively demonstrated for electric cars vs thermic cars, for fireworks vs drone show, it probably isn’t yet.

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          claimed an objective opinion, and that supposed to have data and a study to back it

          Not “someone”. Me. And I linked to the paper, which itself had many links to other studies backing up my claim. You essentially said “nuh uh, more sources” without providing any of your own. Your bad faith arguments don’t work here, go back to Xitter.

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            Could you quote the articles? I read them and couldn’t find the data that backs your claim. But maybe I missed it. As the person making the claim, it is your job to demonstrate it.