• ZK686@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    There has to be a middle ground…if charging Presidents for things they did while in office is going to be allowed, this will in no doubt open a can of worms. I can see Republicans going after Obama for things…

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      6 months ago

      I mean if he broke the law and there is enough evidence to get a conviction amongst a jury of his peers then, like, yeah, go for it. I don’t want any president or any citizen to be able to claim immunity just because they held political office for some period of time. Like if you can’t lead the country legally then don’t lead it? Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time or some platitude.

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      It’s not just “what he did in office”.

      HE TRIED TO OVERTHROW THE MOTHER FUCKING GOVERNMENT TO CLING TO POWER. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR GOD DAMNED HEAD.

      I’m sorry, but I am so tired of this argument. He commit fucking treason. That is literally what happened. We are all pretending like it is some nebulous thing, and it isn’t. He is the textbook definition of a fucking traitor.

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        The Supreme Court will define “treason” by what the constitution says, and Trump does not fall into this category:

        “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

        So, unless you:

        a.) Recruit and assemble a militia and use it to actively engage in insurrection or

        b.) provide aid to a foreign power with whom we are actively in a declared war

        He did not recruit all those Trumpsters, they did that stupid shit on their own. He didn’t help the cause, but he did not actively recruit them to attack the government.

        My point is that the LEFT is throwing that word around way too much…without really knowing how it’s defined.

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          “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

          a.) Recruit and assemble a militia and use it to actively engage in insurrection

          Definitionally it was a militia:

          Recruiting said militia:

          Proof of motive for committing treason:

          Nobody should take you seriously because you are as pathetically weak willed and spineless as you are dishonest. Defending what Donald Trump did and the Supreme Court’s usurpation of the Constitution to allow him to avoid prosecution makes you a traitor to democracy. You disgust me.

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            6 months ago

            Okay. I guess we’ll wait and see what happens. Cheers! Oh, and VOTE RED!

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              6 months ago

              I would stick a shotgun in my mouth and pull the trigger with my toes before I would vote for Donald Trump.

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              I’ve got to hand it to you… although it takes a completely empty head to support a rapist traitor to his country, you’ve at least got some balls to admit it here.

              Props. I’m actually impressed.

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                I don’t necessarily “support” Trump, it’s about what he will actually be found guilt of. Left wing driven sites like Lemmy and Reddit do nothing but attack the Right and anyone who supports Republicans…I just like to remind you all that the Right is NOT just about Trump. In the meantime, let’s wait and see what he’s actually found guilty of… I vote primarily Republican (although I’m registered Independent), but I’m leaning more towards RFK Jr. if anyone…

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      6 months ago

      I can see Republicans going after Obama for things…

      Please list these “things” and the laws they are in violation of.