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    Irrelevant. Someone apparently forgot how to math.

    If she retired, right fucking now, the GOP would block a new SCotUS pick until they were in power again & the democrats would allow that to happen.

    Let’s have this conversation again when it’s a guarantee she can be replaced by a qualified jurist, and not Judge Beer 2.0

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      The Republicans already removed the filibuster for SCOTUS appointments during Trump’s term. Ketanji Brown Jackson was confirmed with a vote of 53 to 47 and the Democratic majority in the Senate is bigger now than it was then.

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        Oh hell, I forgot about that, thank you.

        She should fucking retire then. Let’s put a brilliant, healthy 30something in there as her replacement.

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        What does removing the filibuster mean? I thought you could filibuster anything you want? Just get up there and make a speech for days and days.

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          What you’re describing is a “talking filibuster” where members monopolize the floor so debate can’t continue until they stop. That’s part of it, but that doesn’t happen much anymore in reality. Removing the filibuster for judicial nominees basically just means the threshold for a vote is a simple majority, not a 60 member minimum.

          It’s annoyingly complicated and the term “filibuster” has taken on a cultural meaning that is simpler than what it is in reality. These folks explain it pretty well.

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    For fuck’s sake, don’t risk it. Why risk it? Retire with dignity and humility, and allow someone who’s not batshit crazy to be your replacement. Anything less is selfish.

    Lifetime appointments have got to go.

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      She’s only 69 though. Four justices are younger than her, three are older. She’s closer in age to Kamala Harris than she is to Joe Biden.

      I get the concern, but at some point it gets silly.

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            Not at the moment but it does mean she might suddenly die during the next presidential term.

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            If we had a different process for appointing justices, her age/health wouldn’t matter as much. The problem is that if she dies during a conservative presidency, our already skewed supreme court becomes a radical supreme court, because a Republican will appoint a very conservative justice.

            The United States leans left (~54% I believe), but even if the nation is a 50/50 split, a supreme court that is 6/9 far right already wildly misrepresents the people. 7+ leaves most of this country without a voice.

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            Disregarding if it would be a good idea to retire for other reasons; If she needs another person to assist her to do her job, I’d say she can’t do her job.

            How many other jobs would allow a worker with a personal medic on standby?

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        … Think about your first sentence for a second.

        I understand the point of it is to demonstrate how likely it is for her to continue living another 5-10 years, but stop for a second and consider…

        She’s ONLY 69 years old.

        Nearly 7 decades.

        And the median American is currently just under 39 years old according to my 20 second googling.

        Thats fucking insane to me.

        And she’s not even the oldest, nowhere near the oldest in government. The median age of senators is apparently around 65.

        I already don’t understand kids these days half the time, there’s exactly 0 chance of these people understanding me

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          I think this is a huge problem in American politics, and Americans really need to get around to elect younger officials asap. Obviously it’s not that easy, and the problems run deep.

          The supreme court, however, it’s the one institution that’s kind of intentionally old. They are supposed to be experienced ageing justices at the end of their career.

          The problem is not that the supreme court is old as much as that politicians are even older.

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        Retirement age should be mandated. 65 spend time on whatever, not work.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    But for the first time, they’re publicly expressing an unease that history could repeat itself after Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s refusal to step down in 2014 ended in the Supreme Court lurching sharply to the right.

    Ginsburg, then 81 and a cancer survivor, could have retired and been replaced by a Democratic appointee when President Barack Obama was in office and his party controlled 55 Senate seats.

    It was a history-making moment: Ginsburg’s successor, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, gave rise to a 6-3 conservative majority.

    The calls involving Sotomayor come at a perilous moment for Democrats, as polls show Biden is far from certain to beat Trump in their rematch.

    Even if she leaves this year and is replaced by a Democratic nominee, it would merely shore up a liberal minority that lacks the votes to move the court to the left without the buy-in of at least two conservative colleagues.

    On the other side of the aisle, 90-year-old Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, a former chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said he wouldn’t call on a justice to retire.


    The original article contains 1,258 words, the summary contains 179 words. Saved 86%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    It doesn’t matter. California is over here proving that you can just ignore anything the supreme court says that you don’t like. You’ll get sued over it, but there’s all sorts of shenanigans you can pull to draw the process out for years to avoid coming to the conclusion the supremes say is correct.

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        Ammunition background checks, magazine capacity limitations, banning of NFA items, 1 in 30 limit, restrictive concealed carry policies, requiring non-existent technology for handguns, permit to possess, annual registration fees, etc

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          why is a background check for ammunition illegal?

          lol, all you care about is your unlimited freedom to boomboom, if you block every attempt at sensible gun control of course they’re going to go for your ammo.

          Why is it ok for gun nuts to clog the court system with frivolous and specious bullshit, fighting for the right to own machine guns (they have the right just don’t want to pay the --NOW MINISCULE-- tax stamp fee) and other such nonsense, but when gun control activists want to do the same it’s ignoring the law?

          Sucks when other people abuse the system instead of you I guess.

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              I’m sick of literalist 2a interpretations that ignore half the words in the amendment. Check your own bullshit, k thx.

              A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

              Stop acting like it’s only the last few words of the sentence. Stop acting like it matters what the musket toting founding fathers knew about bump stocks and armor piercing rounds. It’s absurd and stupid.

              If you won’t concede to common sense regulation of firearms then the regulators are going to keep coming. I’m a firearm owner and prior service army officer, you fucking casuals, you mealteam six types who think you’re entitled to 20th century weapons of war and then keep murdering civilians again and again are the real problem. Be realistic, how many mass shootings should we tolerate before trying SOMETHING?

              How many more dead children will it take chickpea?

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                Thanks for proving my point. You don’t give a shit what the supreme court has to say about it.

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                  You don’t give a shit about uvalde, the las vegas massacre, or any other innocents blasted, why should I give two flying fucks about the supreme court’s bullshit?

                  Come on chickpea make it make sense.