• soratoyuki@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I can’t believe we’ve voted for the lesser of two evils for an entire generation, to the point that the lesser evil is a strike breaking, border wall building, senile octogenarian that’s bypassing Congress to sell arms to a genocidal ethnostate, and liberals still can’t come up with a better alternative.

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      I’m almost 38 now and I’ve pretty much never had a president to be excited for. In my previous ignorance I was excited for Obama and then quickly let down by the system that kill any progress.

      I really don’t know what I should have expected from a country that was completely built on greed. Everyone that started it to the people that moved here (immigrants want a better future = they(we, we’re all children of immigrants) want more money = build businesses = greed. Everything about this country is about money money money. That’s literally it.

      America is the land of the fee, home of the billionaire.

      “If you hate it so much why don’t you leave!?” Oh my freindo I wish I could.

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          But how do they collect? Or does no legitimate nation give you citizenship without doing that first?

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            8 months ago

            I imagine your parents had to pay for birth cert, SSN if you are in US, record of birth, etc. Just gets rolled into the $500k bill you get when having a kid.

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              What? Now I’m more lost than before. Hahahhahaa. I’ve got kids… Didn’t cost 500k. Maybe I’m missing a joke here. I’m wondering if you give up your citizenship and they supposedly charge 2800 to do so… Do they send the USMC to collect payment or what?

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                I admit i exaggerated it a bit. I think its more like 80k to 150k depending on where and what sort of care is needed for either mother or child. I mean if you have insurance most of this is covered and you just pay deductible etc. I don’t think you can like be garnished for it in most cases but it can affect your credit and hard. The 2350to renounce citizenship is cited in the link I provided in the top of this thread, I didn’t exaggerate that at all.

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                  Yeah I saw that, that’s crazy. I wonder how the collect that $2850 once you renounce your citizenship. Do they send debt collectors to the country where you have taken up residence?

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      This whole “lesser evil” narrative is daft and it needs to stop.

      If I had an army of bots and got paid to help GOP win the election I would make and upvote comments exactly like this one.

      Biden is not the POTUS you “want” in a fairytale idealist kind of way. Deal with it.

      The “both parties are just as bad as each other” angle only helps one side, and it ain’t progressive.

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        Yeah, one just has to accept “not doing a genocide” is a fairytale for America! Shut up, stop complaining, stop advocating for change in your elected leaders, and get back to work!

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          No, we have to actually fight that in material ways. Voting third party or abstaining is accepting it. That’s exactly what the party leadership wants angry voters to do. If you don’t want to accept genocide, organize and take over the Democratic party. We need to win congressional seats, committee seats, control of local clubs, everything from the bottom up.

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          That’s not what I’m saying at all.

          Advocate all you like. Protest. Donate. Advocate for change.

          Voting is not a form of advocation. The lesser evil narrative is about voting.

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      And if we don’t vote for him, everything falls apart because of us despite the fact that it’s been falling apart for decades.