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      I hate it, but if Biden dropped Harris and picked up Adam Kinzinger, the election would be in the bag. He wouldn’t lose any Democrats and he would pick up all the never trumper Repubs and a majority of centrists/undecided voters. (And Trump might just have a stroke when he hears about it).

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          9 months ago

          There is nothing wrong with her personally. It’s simply the intersection of sexism and racism that makes things harder for all female minorities in positions of power. The same is true for Fawny Willis, AOC, even Michelle Obama. Democrats aren’t immune.

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            Kamala is a black female, therefore anyone who doesn’t like her is sexist/racist?

            There are plenty of reasons to dislike Harris. She is an establishment goon with zero relatability. Decisions she made as a prosecutor have made her deeply unliked specifically among black voters. She performed terribly in the primary, only registering positive attention once, when she attacked Biden for supporting racist bussing policy. She was foisted on us anyways, unless we wanted Trump as president.

            The Democratic establishment took advantage of the Trump crisis and forced the candidate of their choosing onto voters that had just solidly rejected her. That alone is good reason to dislike her.

            If Biden manages to beat Trump, I seriously doubt he will make it for 4 years. That means we will have Harris as the next encombant. If Biden lasts 2 years then Harris will be eligible for two full terms which means we may have to wait until 2036 before we get another primary. Biden is going to run on saving Democracy from Trump, and I’ll probably puke every time I have to hear it.

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              Kamala is a black female, therefore anyone who doesn’t like her is sexist/racist?

              No, but enough of the population is one the other or both to seriously harm her chances. You really think the majority are as educated about her performance as you are? Doubtful

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                So we default to assuming prejudice? One of the groups she seriously underperforms with are blacks, and specifically young blacks. Do you think it’s the color of her skin, or the number of young blacks she incarcerated that drives that?

                But let’s assume the worst and say that she is massively disliked because of race and gender prejudice. If the country is really in that state and a black woman is unelectable, then why would we run a black woman? Are black women in America well served by electing Trump again? I would personally love to see a black woman as president, but do we risk the country to get there?

                Fortunately, I don’t think this is the case but, if it were, I don’t think it’s all that favorable an argument for her candidacy. If someone is incapable of winning, then we shouldn’t be nominating them.

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            no there’s definitely something wrong with her personally, we don’t get to blame this one on bigotry. She’s as milquetoast as they come and her past as a prosecutor just doesn’t inspire any kind of enthusiasm from anyone left of “elightened centrist”

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                lol. That’s straight up not what I said and wtf does “presidential” even mean?

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                  Basically I am saying that just because someone is good on TV doesn’t mean they are qualified to run a country.