How are they abusing defederation? They just want to protect their community from bad actors until Lemmy developers create better mod tools. Plus it is within their right to defederate, that’s the beauty of federation.
I used to be on Beehaw a lot, I have never seen a single troll or hate speech coming from lemmy.world. Being too extreme in protecting your users has the opposite of the desired effect
I feel the same. Started off on Beehaw and recently encountered someone just going off in several comments about how horrible men are and the mods/admins let it slide. Seemed hypocritical to me and haven’t seen anything like that here.
So between that, all of the defederation and not allowing downvotes I’m out. Lemmy.world is my main instance.
I like the lack of downvotes, most people use downvotes so silence people. If there’s hate speech or things I think are misinformation the user should be reported or blocked.
That’s fair. I think it can easily lead to piling on at times and is mostly used as a disagree button when it should be for whether there was contribution to the discussion. Different strokes for different folks and all that, just personally prefer it.
I know. That much they have acknowledged. One of the mods over there says that it might be a while before decent mod tools arrive, she’s heard that the Lemmy developers are going through a long list of feature requests. Might be years before decent mod tools come about.
You can’t create communities on Beehaw and they are abusing defederation, no wonder it’s not growing. I don’t know about lemmy.ml
How are they abusing defederation? They just want to protect their community from bad actors until Lemmy developers create better mod tools. Plus it is within their right to defederate, that’s the beauty of federation.
I used to be on Beehaw a lot, I have never seen a single troll or hate speech coming from lemmy.world. Being too extreme in protecting your users has the opposite of the desired effect
It’s still a concern though. They want to be able to vet every user application and federation makes that impossible to do.
I feel the same. Started off on Beehaw and recently encountered someone just going off in several comments about how horrible men are and the mods/admins let it slide. Seemed hypocritical to me and haven’t seen anything like that here.
So between that, all of the defederation and not allowing downvotes I’m out. Lemmy.world is my main instance.
I like the lack of downvotes, most people use downvotes so silence people. If there’s hate speech or things I think are misinformation the user should be reported or blocked.
That’s fair. I think it can easily lead to piling on at times and is mostly used as a disagree button when it should be for whether there was contribution to the discussion. Different strokes for different folks and all that, just personally prefer it.
Beehaive is not defederating because they’re censorious assholes, it’s because their mod tools/skill are not up to the task.
I know. That much they have acknowledged. One of the mods over there says that it might be a while before decent mod tools arrive, she’s heard that the Lemmy developers are going through a long list of feature requests. Might be years before decent mod tools come about.
Seems like a little of both to be honest.
Something being within your rights doesn’t automatically mean it’s good.
“abusing” defederation lol… They’re using it precisely as it’s intended my guy.