• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    Do you mean propagandise the Russian population? The West is already doing it by way of Radio Free Europe, NED and other NGOs. It is not a discussion that comes up often, but on occasions Russian trolls will bring up about color revolutions in Russian sphere of influence that advocate for democratic reforms, which is catalysed by the West through said media and institutions. Hence, for the Russian jingoists and Kremlin, their own propaganda against the West is justified. But if you ask the trolls what is objectively bad with promoting democracy? You will get crickets. That is certainly better than propping up illiberal and regressive groups.

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      Don’t forget PBS.

      Sesame Street is literally one of the most effective pieces of western propaganda. Reaching, primarily, kids and moms, in oppressive, patriarchal societies…and delivering messages of acceptance and equality right into their homes.

      Better pull the plug from that, right Donnie?

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        can’t control women and kids unless they feel helpless and scared.

        kind of pathetic when you think about it. the only control that they can hold over you is the control you allow them to force upon you.

        become ungovernable, fuck the oligarchy.

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      what is objectively bad with promoting democracy?

      Because calling a US puppet regime democracy, doesn’t actually lead to liberal peace values. As in Ukraine and Georgia, it lead to immediate war for purposes of diminishing Russia. Democracy has turned into “empty branding” for establishment rule.

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        You’re talking about CIA-orchestrated coups and without popular support. Almost all color revolutions tend to be grass roots movement, albeit have soft power influence from outside.

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          Almost all color revolutions tend to be grass roots movement, albeit have soft power influence from outside.

          Contradictory. Soft power with lots of money gets lots of influence. Where any revolution can cause destabilization that favours CIA agenda/control, it will get funded. Opinion that “more trade with EU would be nice” gets funded into protests. Black flag nazi executions of protesters get narrated as Governmnent executions, and the protest frenzy causes a coup.

          In Georgia and Ukraine, or just taking the Ukraine example, Maidan liberalism received no governance representation whatsover inside coup government. Only nationalists who would provoke a war on Russia got power. So there is 0 link between the substance of popular complaints, and the resulting evil of transforming complaints into CIA agenda.