• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    More like about 10,000 years ago when humans started farming and agriculture to grow crops at scale to make bread … then at about the same time they domesticated cows in order to harvest milk and figure out how to make and store butter.

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      The earliest known bread recipe dates back approximately 14,500 years, discovered in a stone fireplace at a site in northeastern Jordan, where charred remains of a pita-like flatbread were found.

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      And “only” 5000 years if you count when people started using yeast for bread production, since the bread ain’t the same without yeast.

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        Behold! The bread hierarchy!

        Flour + water = hardtack

        Flour + water + yeast = bread

        Flour + water + yeast + butter = toast

        Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar = muffin

        Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs = cake

        Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs + chocolate = brownie

        Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs + chocolate + cream = cupcake

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        It’s pretty hard not to use yeast. It’s everywhere and if you wait long it enough it’ll start to ferment. Look at what some Orthodox Jews go through to make unleavened bread.

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          I got the opposite of whet you meant at first, did you mean ‘to prevent it from leavening at all’? I found this in wiki and only then did I got it:

          Dough is considered to begin the leavening process 18 minutes from the time it gets wet; sooner if eggs, fruit juice, or milk is added to the dough. The entire process of making matzah takes only a few minutes in efficient modern matzah bakeries.