So you’re saying autism and narcissism (autism spectrum disorder and narcissistic personality disorder) are similar enough that you are certain you can relate to the struggles of people with NPD and you know they shouldn’t be concerned about having a slur used?
Suppose someone who hated Elon Musk called him a nasty word like “emotionless autist” or “robot sperg”, as examples of anti-autism slurs based on shortening the name of the diagnosis. I think this would be the same as calling your parents the slur you used. If you can honestly say you’d be completely fine having an anti-autism slur used on a bad person, then I’ll accept your use of an anti-narcissism slur on bad people. But if you think one of those two very similar situations would be ableist and would hurt disabled people, then please accept that they’re both ableist and they both hurt disabled people.
So you’re saying autism and narcissism (autism spectrum disorder and narcissistic personality disorder) are similar enough that you are certain you can relate to the struggles of people with NPD and you know they shouldn’t be concerned about having a slur used?
Nope.
I am saying they are both words, concepts, with complex etymologies, histories, whose specific meanings change over time, and are sometimes or even often used clumsily, or misused… but they still fundamentally do have meaning.
These terms can be used as slurs, insults.
They can also be used dispationately, accurately.
Here’s another example of a word like that:
Obese.
It’s got a fairly clear and straightforward definition, based off of BMI.
Now, is the BMI perfect? No, there are a good number of factors that the simple BMI glosses over, you’d have to take those factors into account to make a more accurate determination, classificatiom.
Doesn’t mean obesity isn’t real, doesn’t mean no one is obese, and again, it also doesn’t mean that some people use that term as a slur, an insult.
Also, me explaing this does not mean that I claim to understand the struggles of obese people as they do, living with or struggling with obesity, however you want to phrase that.
That would be rather presumptuous of me, now wouldn’t it?
I again have no clue how you were able to read ‘I can relate to the struggles of a person with NPD’ out of what I wrote.
I never said that, I never said anything like that.
Well… ok.
I kinda maybe just lied a little bit there, with that slightly imprecise, casual phrasing.
With this latest response of yours… I’m pretty sure I know how you heard something completely different than what I said, how you invented a different meaning that doesn’t exist in the text I wrote, how you managed to find a way to be personally offended and attacked.
You are a narcissist, you have NPD.
You’ve found a way to make my pithy quip about my own trauma into your trauma, actually.
You’ve managed to invent, and then try to reframe this whole discussion about you.
You’ve popped in to let everyone know that your feelings have been hurt, and that I’m a bad person who uses bad words like a bad person who hates Jews.
This is perhaps the most classic narcissist behavior, immediately recognizable to anyone who has ever known a narcissist: The ability (need? unstoppable compulsion?) to insert yourself into essentially any situation, proclaim “I’m the victim, actually”, and then character assasinate basically anyone, for any reason, in any way.
I don’t think that me saying any of this is going to change your mind.
I also don’t care how you feel, because for you, feelings are a fluid, morphing weapon; you’ll either have or claim to have, at any given moment, whatever feelings which are in your estimation, optimal to convey either that you are genuinely aggrieved, or that your target is truly heinous.
I don’t care if you can or cannot control your reflexive weaponization of your feelings, your delusional reflexive interpretation of anything anyone says as either a personal insult against you, or not sufficiently adulatory, supplicatory.
I am writing this reply, after which I am blocking you, so that others may be able to see this conversation, to see what narcissism is, how it works, and why people like me, who had their formative years shaped by people like you, why people like me have CPTSD and trust issues.
So you’re saying autism and narcissism (autism spectrum disorder and narcissistic personality disorder) are similar enough that you are certain you can relate to the struggles of people with NPD and you know they shouldn’t be concerned about having a slur used?
Suppose someone who hated Elon Musk called him a nasty word like “emotionless autist” or “robot sperg”, as examples of anti-autism slurs based on shortening the name of the diagnosis. I think this would be the same as calling your parents the slur you used. If you can honestly say you’d be completely fine having an anti-autism slur used on a bad person, then I’ll accept your use of an anti-narcissism slur on bad people. But if you think one of those two very similar situations would be ableist and would hurt disabled people, then please accept that they’re both ableist and they both hurt disabled people.
Nope.
I am saying they are both words, concepts, with complex etymologies, histories, whose specific meanings change over time, and are sometimes or even often used clumsily, or misused… but they still fundamentally do have meaning.
These terms can be used as slurs, insults.
They can also be used dispationately, accurately.
Here’s another example of a word like that:
Obese.
It’s got a fairly clear and straightforward definition, based off of BMI.
Now, is the BMI perfect? No, there are a good number of factors that the simple BMI glosses over, you’d have to take those factors into account to make a more accurate determination, classificatiom.
Doesn’t mean obesity isn’t real, doesn’t mean no one is obese, and again, it also doesn’t mean that some people use that term as a slur, an insult.
Also, me explaing this does not mean that I claim to understand the struggles of obese people as they do, living with or struggling with obesity, however you want to phrase that.
That would be rather presumptuous of me, now wouldn’t it?
I again have no clue how you were able to read ‘I can relate to the struggles of a person with NPD’ out of what I wrote.
I never said that, I never said anything like that.
Well… ok.
I kinda maybe just lied a little bit there, with that slightly imprecise, casual phrasing.
With this latest response of yours… I’m pretty sure I know how you heard something completely different than what I said, how you invented a different meaning that doesn’t exist in the text I wrote, how you managed to find a way to be personally offended and attacked.
You are a narcissist, you have NPD.
You’ve found a way to make my pithy quip about my own trauma into your trauma, actually.
You’ve managed to invent, and then try to reframe this whole discussion about you.
You’ve popped in to let everyone know that your feelings have been hurt, and that I’m a bad person who uses bad words like a bad person who hates Jews.
This is perhaps the most classic narcissist behavior, immediately recognizable to anyone who has ever known a narcissist: The ability (need? unstoppable compulsion?) to insert yourself into essentially any situation, proclaim “I’m the victim, actually”, and then character assasinate basically anyone, for any reason, in any way.
I don’t think that me saying any of this is going to change your mind.
I also don’t care how you feel, because for you, feelings are a fluid, morphing weapon; you’ll either have or claim to have, at any given moment, whatever feelings which are in your estimation, optimal to convey either that you are genuinely aggrieved, or that your target is truly heinous.
I don’t care if you can or cannot control your reflexive weaponization of your feelings, your delusional reflexive interpretation of anything anyone says as either a personal insult against you, or not sufficiently adulatory, supplicatory.
I am writing this reply, after which I am blocking you, so that others may be able to see this conversation, to see what narcissism is, how it works, and why people like me, who had their formative years shaped by people like you, why people like me have CPTSD and trust issues.
So, again, kindly fuck off with your bullshit.
Toodle-oo!