• Limitless_screaming@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    The soldiers probably made it all worst, but Hamas 100% caused civilian casualties. Even if Hamas members didn’t cause them, remember that Hamas asked anyone who had a weapon and was willing to storm the border with them to go in. There are videos of them dragging around wounded civilians and soldiers.

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      1 year ago

      This is all fine except Hamas does not exclusively target civilians. It has been only targeting military vehicles and tanks since the incursion in Gaza (not counting the rockets dropped on Israeli areas, that don’t seem to be causing any casualties).

      And sadly almost every death since October 7 has been caused by Israel directly killing civilians in Gaza.

      We can twist the truth all we want but Hamas aren’t blanket terrorists (and I quite dislike them and their dumb strategy). Let’s not romanticize calling them some extrwme thing removed from details and context

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        1 year ago

        I know that Hamas doesn’t exclusively target civilians. Hamas as the government of Gaza probably wouldn’t risk their public image by instructing it’s militants to target civilians, but their militants did cause civilian casualties and some of them looked like they were out for vengeance.

        The rockets that Hamas fires are primitive and cannot be guided, and sometimes wind or other factors cause them to miss their targets. They have been targeting nearby civilian areas after giving warnings (lol), and while they are not as much of a terrorist organization as the IDF, they still have committed acts of terrorism on multiple occasions.

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          1 year ago

          while they are not as much of a terrorist organization as the IDF

          wow.

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            1 year ago

            Well, I am sorry, but calling yourself a defense force doesn’t make your terrorism more acceptable. Your forces still target civilians, take and torture hostages, terrorize people in peaceful areas, arm and defend criminals, and target and suppress journalists. Having a court acquit your heinous crimes doesn’t make them more justifiable either.

            I hope this is understandable.

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          1 year ago

          My bad, looks like that response was meant for the other person who claimed they only target civilians.