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I have said this before: what are they supposed to do? I don’t want external AI, I don’t want google lens in my browser, I don’t want a lot of what they are doing.
But Firefox is in between a rock and hard place. To the average user not having those things is seen as being behind and old. They are told every day how great AI is, and how useful it is.
So what does Mozilla do?
We have different distributions of Firefox at least. Dunno how feasible it would be for them to release and support a stripped down version. I’m gonna guess it’s not as I would assume a lot of these integrations come with sponsorship money.
I literally cannot explain how excited this makes me. I can’t, because that’d require me to be in any way exited by any of this, as opposed to annoyed that’ll I’ll have to disable yet more useless bloat that doesn’t belong in a web browser. And apparently waste disk space on a local LLM I won’t be using, because, you know, I can fucking read on my own just fine.
You know they could’ve just made official extensions for these? Good thing I’m on ESR so I won’t receive these until I move to a fork.
We really, really, really need a third party browser that isn’t a Firefox or Chrome clone. This duopoly is a downward spiral.
Cant wait for ladybird!
It’s not possible thanks to ever increasing web bloatware. A single person or group of freetime programmers cannot implement that much bloatware without using existing ones. We need a new protocol but it will not gonna happen because it wouldn’t be profitable.
I’ve used Firefox since the Netscape era. I used Firefox before it reached 1.0. I supported it when it was way slower than IE or Chrome. I will not support this.
K.I.S.S.
YOU’LL NEVER GET ME TO USE AI
translation: ask user again in 3 days
Seems like a silly statement. I mean we do not have real AI, so you basically are saying “I will not use predictive algorithms” which seems counter intuitive to using a computer at all.
Its abundantly obvious that nowadays when somebody mentions AI they mean generative AI for text, images, and so on.
OK, that changes nothing about what I said. Do you have a point?
I quite obviously meant it doesn’t matter how much they integrate Gemini into the browser, I’m not touching it.
I, again quite obviously, am not saying I’m not going to use any predictive algorithm ever made.
If this is confusing to you, consider consulting a doctor.
You said or op or whoever, I will not use AI. Now you are saying in a browser and if it is gemini.
Point is I think the problem is corporations, the training, the privacy, etc.
Predictive algorithms could be useful eveb in a browser, generative ai could be helpful with spotting phishing, confusing ads, spelling, orgnization and layout, but it’s all about who made it, who controls it, and how much energy it consumes.
That is my point, the issues surrounding computing are not just because it is called “ai” and I think it should be said as such.
It’s such a shame to see the difficulty Mozilla has to find a viable business model. I understand the reactions here and agree it’s appalling, but at the same time, what can they do? AFAIK they rely on Google to pay for the search engine integration. That already sucks, and is a serious existential risk. So they need to diversify, which I think is what they’re attempting to do here: let companies pay for being the default “lens”, LLM, weather service, etc. From a business perspective this makes a lot of sense, to reduce the risk of depending on one customer.
It doesn’t help that the c-level are just as greedy as you’d expect for any random company, raking in the millions, and arguably are doing a really bad job by being reactionary only, and then choosing the course of action that alienates the traditional user base. I don’t really see any good way out of this other than radically changing their business model, e.g., going full non-profit, and move to a subscription model for revenue. But that’s extremely risky as well. I would definitely pay a subscription for a Firefox where the primary focus is stability, safety and speed, as opposed to new features. But, there’s also a limit to what I’d be willing to pay, $1 a month seems like a no brainer, but $5 would feel steep.
Long story short, they’re in a tough spot, I feel for them.
Their email mask service has been great and easy to use. I would rather hand out throw away emails that actually use mine anymore. But that alone isn’t going to pay their bills because not many people even know it is an option, and even fewer are willing to pay. I can’t blame them.
just use librewolf people.
How will they be dealing with this?
librewolf has always disabled all the ai stuff.
Ew, wtf
If you just want regular Firefox without Mozilla’s bullshit grab Waterfox.
If you’re the more paranoid type then grab LibreWolf. It comes with a lot of privacy centric tweaks out of the box and is what I personally have used for over a year now.
And I dunno maybe try Floorp if you feel fancy. I’ve never personally used it however.
Be warned that if you use librewolf you will have to deal with corpo accounts asking you to verofy the account a lot more ,like having to use a phone number where you didnt have to do that before.
Holy hell fuck Mozilla
Welp, so long Firefox. It has been a good run all those years.
What will you move to?
I don’t know yet. Going to give Librewolf a try.
Will sync work for that? I needs muh sync.
that’s it im going from firefox to mullvand browser all.of they ai is shit
