Or maybe people were tired of the same old shit, seeing as things only seem to get worse and worse, and Hillary being āthe most qualified candidateā i.e. the one most status quo, made her unpopular.
Fuck the status quo, and anyone who would cite that as a reason to usher in the racism, fascism and crony politics that republicans embrace.
There were 2 unpaid wars blowing up the deficit an erosion of rights, and the economy melting down under bushā¦ then Obama turned that all around and the nation saw years of record economic growth, low unemployment, progressive judges were nominated and significant legislation passed. The status quo improved under one admin after practically cratering in the republican admin.
Yet, bitching about the status quo is what brought trump. I look back at the hairs people had to split to come up with reasons to whine and moan only for them to vote trump in and make things worse.
Every fucking bit of the status quo got worse With neāer Hillaryās opponent. Yet still people whine about it. The fact is democrat policies would have improved things but since magic didnāt happen in 8 years across the board itās Hillaryās fault.
Bottom line is youāre blaming her for things white republican men never ever got blamed for despite their policies being by the reason why the status quo is how it is.
Youāve got it backwards. Desperately wanting to uphold the status quo is what brought Trumpās victory. When people are dissatisfied with the status quo and youāve got Hillary going on with business as usual while Trump is promising to ādrain the swampā people will go with it even if itās a lie. There is at least that glimmer of hope that things will be different. Itās a similar messaging as Obamaās āhope and changeā.
You talk about 2 unpaid wars, blowing up the deficit, an erosion of rights, and the economy melting down under Bush, but how did Obama fix any of that? After campaigning on change, Obama continued those wars (and added more military action: https://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/index.html), extended and expanded bailouts to wall street and failing industries (while not punishing a single person responsible), and extended and expanded the surveillance state by renewing and increasing the powers under the Patriot Act. Even his signature Affordable Care Act did little to fix issues as health insurance companies posted record profits each year. Obama nominated milquetoast judges at best in a pathetic attempt to look ācentristā and then sat idly by and let republicans rob a justice nomination. He couldāve taken action but he insisted on doing things in the most ineffectual way possible, maybe out of the thought that it was impossible for Hillary to lose.
Youāre believing this sob story about Hillary hitting some sort of glass ceiling when in reality she wouldāve followed the same damn script as all these other bastards. If youāre trapped in a room, do you bang on the door or the wall? Clearly you bang on what is more likely to give in, that is why it will seem like the democrats are getting more blame, but the reality is theyāve been made into the only solution in this system and itās a shit solution, but itās all we got, so we have to apply as much pressure as possible on them.
Itās not backwards to believe that the world doesnāt suddenly change into candy land a mere 8 years from an economic catastrophe that had the country a hairās breadth away from straight up shutting down ATMs.
But thatās on Hillary? The backwards part is your expectation.
Both bush and Obama had GOP led congresses and throughout his entire admin Obama had to contend with republicans calling any progress socialism while question the presidentās own citizenshipā¦ while claiming Hillary eats babiesā¦
The US is so big it doesnāt turn on a dime and even GOP fascists couldnāt remake the country in a single term. Yet itās Hillaryās fault we didnāt live in a Star Trek utopia 8 years after bush fucked the whole country?
So the precious status quo is clearly democratsā fault for continuously supporting liberal policies that do improve peopleās lives all while the GOP nominates āDavid Duke without the baggageā for house speakershipā¦ I got that backwards? Because in 8 years Obama didnāt creat a liberal utopia with a GOP led congress after bush damn near burnt the whole thing down?
Was it just not fast enough of an improvement or did trump have policies that convinced you republicans are better? Iām pretty sure none of that is on Hillary and more on people citing the āstatus quoā instead having a memory that persists longer than a single presidency.
At some point the fault has to go to stupid fucking voters who think the world changes on a dimeā¦ not onto a single candidate. Itās not a sob story involving a glass ceiling as apparently itās a sob story of lazy morons whining that the status quo doesnāt make them feel good.
Things have only gotten worse so I donāt think itās backwards to stop blaming Hillary and focus on any idiot who rather than choosing Coke vs Pepsi, requested āone large dog shit pleaseā instead. Thatās not really on Hillary and more on a history of moronic goldfish that canāt recall the last recession. It doesnāt have to be the ideal choice for someone to do the right thing. The whole argument is BS, point to a time in human history where the āstatus quoā was so fucking great ? Meanwhile 2016 was just so ickyā¦
Youāre just making one excuse after another. Obama had a supermajority at the beginning of his term. He was in a great position to push forward for the rights of women and he had campaigned on this. Then what happened? This: https://www.reuters.com/article/obama-abortion-idUKN2946642020090430
The reality is that peopleās lives werenāt improving, not enough. Democrats could do A LOT, A LOT, A LOOOOOT more but they insist on doing things as slow as possible, taking a tiny step forward and letting republicans take five steps back. Itās all for show and Iām sorry to inform you, but youāre being taken for a ride. The fault is not on the voters. They gave Obama a supermajority. Donāt be surprised if support fails to the wayside when insufficient action is taken. The only stupid fucks are the politicians who think theyāre owed votes and the dumb fucks who parrot this absolutely idiotic line of thinking. Stop serving up a large dog shit with a kernel of corn in it as the only alternative to the regular large dog shit and then saying āwell you should be happy with the kernel of corn in it!!ā
No Iām describing how the world was objectively better but no for everyone everywhere 8 years after a fucking meltdown.
Youāre the one making excuses by justifying trump because specific legislation wasnāt passed.
Youāre right, your chosen law wasnāt passed, at a time when roe v wade was considered āsettled lawā alsoā¦ THE PRESIDENT DOESNT WRITE NOR PASS BILLS. So blame congress not Hillary. Are you implying that if congress had enshrined abortion into law that Obama or Hillary wouldnāt sign that bill?
Meanwhile they did pass the Ledbetter pay act. But fuck the whole democrat party right? So vote trump as an improvement? Do you hear how fucking stupid that sounds?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869
Obama had a super majority for less than 2 years out of 8. So why ignore that plus the fact that Obama doesnāt write or vote on billsā¦ neither would Hillaryā¦? Soā¦ your precious āstatus quoā is all their fault?
ā Itās not good enoughā so you vote trump. THAT sounds like an excuse to me. I agree democrats could ALWAYS have done more, and ideally the democrat party would be a progressive utopia with highly aligned ideologiesā¦
But itās not. No party has beenā¦ so is that a reason to vote for trump? Itās Hillaryās fault?
Again it sounds like youāre the one making excuses for choosing straight up ādogshitā over Pepsi vs Coke. You know cause one president apparently didnāt remake the world in your image in 8 years post economic meltdownā¦ these arenāt realistic or or even cognizant positions to hold.
I see youāve learned nothing from 2016. Canāt wait for you to make the same mistake over and over again while telling everyone how much better their lives supposedly are and how stupid they are for not voting for yet another corporate stooge. Yeah, Obama did only have 2 years with a supermajority, probably because he immediately went back on his campaign promises, which was the point of the link I gave to that āspecific legislationā that you dismissed so readily. That was just one of many campaign promises that Obama immediately went back on and obviously he suffered for it in the next election, but nah, forget learning lessons from that, right? Youāre too smart to learn lessons, itās clearly the stupid votersā fault for not coming out in droves to vote for someone breaking promises made and making no efforts to show that theyāre trying to fight for them.
I didnāt vote for Trump, but I also canāt control how others vote. Itās up to the politician to give voters a reason to vote. If they canāt do that then theyāve failed at their job. Instead you think the smart move is to shame people into voting for someone who does little to show voters any benefit. Real smart. Again, the choice currently isnāt ādogshit vs coke vs pepsiā itās ādogshit vs dogshit with corn in itā.
Funny how democrats can barely do anything in eight years but supposedly Trump brought on the apocalypse in only four. Have fun figuring out why republicans are so much more effective than spineless democrats. You obviously havenāt learned after all these years.
āProbablyā why he lost a supermajority? Do you hear yourself?
The link you provided showed the priorities of an administration that could not wave a wand and solve that problem, meanwhile greater problems (like the entire economy melting down) did exist so you split hairs about what could have been. Obama suffered so much from this āstatus quoā that he got re-elected? Notice the link I sent showed you were recycling the same false talking points that Romney had, you know him, the guy that voters didnāt electā¦
Keep focusing on Obamaās campaign promises while republicans make no promise beyond hurting people, so you achieve what? And thatās Hillaryās fault?
I agree that the Democratic Party could do more to inspire voters, but voters are also responsible for whining about inspiration while fascism knock on their door. āShameā is the label that idiots would give to excuse, to explain, their own BS while allowing others to pursue evil. If you think itās Hillaryās fault you deserve shame as much as you shirk involvement or understanding in the overall process.
āBreaking promisesā is a literal excuse. The type of excuse you accused me of making. The reality is that making the excuse of ābreaking promisesā like youāre a jilted lover is a matter of interpretation such that anyone leveraging that crap is clearly absolving themselves of poor civic understanding. So now, we all suffer trump because of moronsā understanding of āstatus quoā.
Ike honestly I agree with you that democrats should have put forth a more compelling choice, but to say Hillary just isnāt compelling enough in the face of trump is really a statement of ignorance over civic involvement. Anyone who didnāt vote and let trump take the office should be just as ashamed as those who voted for fascism. They didnāt make the informed choice, nor did they make the right one. āLearning from 2016ā shouldnāt mean running Hillary again, but itās fucking stupid to think that ālearning from 2016ā has to mean electing republicans ābecause of my feelingsā¦ā
Calm down. I said āprobablyā because failures canāt be pinned down to only one thing, but failure to deliver is a pretty damn major factor. You need to hear people other than yourself, because you keep talking about electing republicans when no one has suggested this is what we do. Itās all in your head. If you want to keep insisting that āeverything was fineā and that shaming voters into voting will win elections, then I donāt know what to say other than that you should learn how to gain voters because that aināt it.
So yeah, stop shaming and blaming others when the drooling morons running the democratic party make the stupidest moves at every opportunity and refuse to operate any differently because theyāre ātHe mOsT qUaLiFiEd EvErā and ātHe StAtUs QuO iS fInEā and āwE nEeD tO rEaCh AcRoSs ThE aIsLeā and āmUh dEcOrUmā.
Or maybe people were tired of the same old shit, seeing as things only seem to get worse and worse, and Hillary being āthe most qualified candidateā i.e. the one most status quo, made her unpopular.
Fuck the status quo, and anyone who would cite that as a reason to usher in the racism, fascism and crony politics that republicans embrace.
There were 2 unpaid wars blowing up the deficit an erosion of rights, and the economy melting down under bushā¦ then Obama turned that all around and the nation saw years of record economic growth, low unemployment, progressive judges were nominated and significant legislation passed. The status quo improved under one admin after practically cratering in the republican admin.
Yet, bitching about the status quo is what brought trump. I look back at the hairs people had to split to come up with reasons to whine and moan only for them to vote trump in and make things worse.
Every fucking bit of the status quo got worse With neāer Hillaryās opponent. Yet still people whine about it. The fact is democrat policies would have improved things but since magic didnāt happen in 8 years across the board itās Hillaryās fault.
Bottom line is youāre blaming her for things white republican men never ever got blamed for despite their policies being by the reason why the status quo is how it is.
Youāve got it backwards. Desperately wanting to uphold the status quo is what brought Trumpās victory. When people are dissatisfied with the status quo and youāve got Hillary going on with business as usual while Trump is promising to ādrain the swampā people will go with it even if itās a lie. There is at least that glimmer of hope that things will be different. Itās a similar messaging as Obamaās āhope and changeā.
You talk about 2 unpaid wars, blowing up the deficit, an erosion of rights, and the economy melting down under Bush, but how did Obama fix any of that? After campaigning on change, Obama continued those wars (and added more military action: https://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/index.html), extended and expanded bailouts to wall street and failing industries (while not punishing a single person responsible), and extended and expanded the surveillance state by renewing and increasing the powers under the Patriot Act. Even his signature Affordable Care Act did little to fix issues as health insurance companies posted record profits each year. Obama nominated milquetoast judges at best in a pathetic attempt to look ācentristā and then sat idly by and let republicans rob a justice nomination. He couldāve taken action but he insisted on doing things in the most ineffectual way possible, maybe out of the thought that it was impossible for Hillary to lose.
Youāre believing this sob story about Hillary hitting some sort of glass ceiling when in reality she wouldāve followed the same damn script as all these other bastards. If youāre trapped in a room, do you bang on the door or the wall? Clearly you bang on what is more likely to give in, that is why it will seem like the democrats are getting more blame, but the reality is theyāve been made into the only solution in this system and itās a shit solution, but itās all we got, so we have to apply as much pressure as possible on them.
Itās not backwards to believe that the world doesnāt suddenly change into candy land a mere 8 years from an economic catastrophe that had the country a hairās breadth away from straight up shutting down ATMs.
But thatās on Hillary? The backwards part is your expectation.
Both bush and Obama had GOP led congresses and throughout his entire admin Obama had to contend with republicans calling any progress socialism while question the presidentās own citizenshipā¦ while claiming Hillary eats babiesā¦
The US is so big it doesnāt turn on a dime and even GOP fascists couldnāt remake the country in a single term. Yet itās Hillaryās fault we didnāt live in a Star Trek utopia 8 years after bush fucked the whole country?
So the precious status quo is clearly democratsā fault for continuously supporting liberal policies that do improve peopleās lives all while the GOP nominates āDavid Duke without the baggageā for house speakershipā¦ I got that backwards? Because in 8 years Obama didnāt creat a liberal utopia with a GOP led congress after bush damn near burnt the whole thing down?
Was it just not fast enough of an improvement or did trump have policies that convinced you republicans are better? Iām pretty sure none of that is on Hillary and more on people citing the āstatus quoā instead having a memory that persists longer than a single presidency.
At some point the fault has to go to stupid fucking voters who think the world changes on a dimeā¦ not onto a single candidate. Itās not a sob story involving a glass ceiling as apparently itās a sob story of lazy morons whining that the status quo doesnāt make them feel good.
Things have only gotten worse so I donāt think itās backwards to stop blaming Hillary and focus on any idiot who rather than choosing Coke vs Pepsi, requested āone large dog shit pleaseā instead. Thatās not really on Hillary and more on a history of moronic goldfish that canāt recall the last recession. It doesnāt have to be the ideal choice for someone to do the right thing. The whole argument is BS, point to a time in human history where the āstatus quoā was so fucking great ? Meanwhile 2016 was just so ickyā¦
Youāre just making one excuse after another. Obama had a supermajority at the beginning of his term. He was in a great position to push forward for the rights of women and he had campaigned on this. Then what happened? This: https://www.reuters.com/article/obama-abortion-idUKN2946642020090430
The reality is that peopleās lives werenāt improving, not enough. Democrats could do A LOT, A LOT, A LOOOOOT more but they insist on doing things as slow as possible, taking a tiny step forward and letting republicans take five steps back. Itās all for show and Iām sorry to inform you, but youāre being taken for a ride. The fault is not on the voters. They gave Obama a supermajority. Donāt be surprised if support fails to the wayside when insufficient action is taken. The only stupid fucks are the politicians who think theyāre owed votes and the dumb fucks who parrot this absolutely idiotic line of thinking. Stop serving up a large dog shit with a kernel of corn in it as the only alternative to the regular large dog shit and then saying āwell you should be happy with the kernel of corn in it!!ā
No Iām describing how the world was objectively better but no for everyone everywhere 8 years after a fucking meltdown.
Youāre the one making excuses by justifying trump because specific legislation wasnāt passed.
Youāre right, your chosen law wasnāt passed, at a time when roe v wade was considered āsettled lawā alsoā¦ THE PRESIDENT DOESNT WRITE NOR PASS BILLS. So blame congress not Hillary. Are you implying that if congress had enshrined abortion into law that Obama or Hillary wouldnāt sign that bill?
Meanwhile they did pass the Ledbetter pay act. But fuck the whole democrat party right? So vote trump as an improvement? Do you hear how fucking stupid that sounds?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869 Obama had a super majority for less than 2 years out of 8. So why ignore that plus the fact that Obama doesnāt write or vote on billsā¦ neither would Hillaryā¦? Soā¦ your precious āstatus quoā is all their fault?
ā Itās not good enoughā so you vote trump. THAT sounds like an excuse to me. I agree democrats could ALWAYS have done more, and ideally the democrat party would be a progressive utopia with highly aligned ideologiesā¦
But itās not. No party has beenā¦ so is that a reason to vote for trump? Itās Hillaryās fault?
Again it sounds like youāre the one making excuses for choosing straight up ādogshitā over Pepsi vs Coke. You know cause one president apparently didnāt remake the world in your image in 8 years post economic meltdownā¦ these arenāt realistic or or even cognizant positions to hold.
I see youāve learned nothing from 2016. Canāt wait for you to make the same mistake over and over again while telling everyone how much better their lives supposedly are and how stupid they are for not voting for yet another corporate stooge. Yeah, Obama did only have 2 years with a supermajority, probably because he immediately went back on his campaign promises, which was the point of the link I gave to that āspecific legislationā that you dismissed so readily. That was just one of many campaign promises that Obama immediately went back on and obviously he suffered for it in the next election, but nah, forget learning lessons from that, right? Youāre too smart to learn lessons, itās clearly the stupid votersā fault for not coming out in droves to vote for someone breaking promises made and making no efforts to show that theyāre trying to fight for them.
I didnāt vote for Trump, but I also canāt control how others vote. Itās up to the politician to give voters a reason to vote. If they canāt do that then theyāve failed at their job. Instead you think the smart move is to shame people into voting for someone who does little to show voters any benefit. Real smart. Again, the choice currently isnāt ādogshit vs coke vs pepsiā itās ādogshit vs dogshit with corn in itā.
Funny how democrats can barely do anything in eight years but supposedly Trump brought on the apocalypse in only four. Have fun figuring out why republicans are so much more effective than spineless democrats. You obviously havenāt learned after all these years.
āProbablyā why he lost a supermajority? Do you hear yourself?
The link you provided showed the priorities of an administration that could not wave a wand and solve that problem, meanwhile greater problems (like the entire economy melting down) did exist so you split hairs about what could have been. Obama suffered so much from this āstatus quoā that he got re-elected? Notice the link I sent showed you were recycling the same false talking points that Romney had, you know him, the guy that voters didnāt electā¦
Keep focusing on Obamaās campaign promises while republicans make no promise beyond hurting people, so you achieve what? And thatās Hillaryās fault?
I agree that the Democratic Party could do more to inspire voters, but voters are also responsible for whining about inspiration while fascism knock on their door. āShameā is the label that idiots would give to excuse, to explain, their own BS while allowing others to pursue evil. If you think itās Hillaryās fault you deserve shame as much as you shirk involvement or understanding in the overall process.
āBreaking promisesā is a literal excuse. The type of excuse you accused me of making. The reality is that making the excuse of ābreaking promisesā like youāre a jilted lover is a matter of interpretation such that anyone leveraging that crap is clearly absolving themselves of poor civic understanding. So now, we all suffer trump because of moronsā understanding of āstatus quoā.
Ike honestly I agree with you that democrats should have put forth a more compelling choice, but to say Hillary just isnāt compelling enough in the face of trump is really a statement of ignorance over civic involvement. Anyone who didnāt vote and let trump take the office should be just as ashamed as those who voted for fascism. They didnāt make the informed choice, nor did they make the right one. āLearning from 2016ā shouldnāt mean running Hillary again, but itās fucking stupid to think that ālearning from 2016ā has to mean electing republicans ābecause of my feelingsā¦ā
Calm down. I said āprobablyā because failures canāt be pinned down to only one thing, but failure to deliver is a pretty damn major factor. You need to hear people other than yourself, because you keep talking about electing republicans when no one has suggested this is what we do. Itās all in your head. If you want to keep insisting that āeverything was fineā and that shaming voters into voting will win elections, then I donāt know what to say other than that you should learn how to gain voters because that aināt it.
Donāt forget than Hillaryās team made the ingenious move of doing what they could to make Trump the republican nominee: https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/
So yeah, stop shaming and blaming others when the drooling morons running the democratic party make the stupidest moves at every opportunity and refuse to operate any differently because theyāre ātHe mOsT qUaLiFiEd EvErā and ātHe StAtUs QuO iS fInEā and āwE nEeD tO rEaCh AcRoSs ThE aIsLeā and āmUh dEcOrUmā.