$10 is the “go fuck yourself” price for things that would otherwise be free.
You’ve already spent $450 on the console, $90 on a game, and $50 for the full online subscription. What’s $10 more dollars for the welcome demo? Go fuck yourself, pay the plumber man.
Yeah, I expected them to ask the full $60 for it, which would be completely unreasonable, but at least I understand why they wouldn’t give it away then. But 10? They could easily eat that, they just don’t want to.
Either way, I can’t imagine anyone paying for a “game” that’s nothing more than an instruction booklet. If it were free, maybe someone would open it while Mario Kart is downloading.
You expect Nintendo to do MULTITASKING? ;)
“Because fuck you!” -Nintendo
-the children’s toy company
I was on the fence about Switch 2, leaning toward not getting one. This just solidified that position. No way I’m paying for something that charges for the instruction manual.
I like how there’s so many fees on this console that we haven’t even gotten to the $50 skype webcam accessory which they spent a solid third of their direct showing off.
I miss the DS era :/
EDIT:
I also want to point out this: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/05/reggie-had-to-fight-for-wii-sports-as-a-pack-in-and-miyamoto-wasnt-happy
Fils-Aimé pushed for the bundle, and initially company President Satoru Iwata turned the proposal down: “Nintendo does not give away precious content for free.”
“Neither of you understands the challenges of creating software that people love to play. This is something we constantly push ourselves to do. We do not give away our software,” Mr. Miyamoto stated.
It’s ironic that with the success of Wii sports, Nintendo completely ignored the lesson.
Who’s going to buy that camera though? It’s only so you can talk to 3 other people, and none of the games that make use of it look any good.
All the important people at nintendo have been separated from reality by their own fame and success for so long that they’ve lost their common sense and rationality.
But despite it all, their absolute contempt for their costumers and supporters continues to get rewarded by masses of fanboys/fangirls who keep unloading dumptrucks of money on Nintendos doorstop out of some obsessive nostalgia, and thus keeps nintendo from ever actually learning an actual fucking lesson.
Or how the “Chat Button” is pay gated after the first year…
https://www.polygon.com/nintendo-switch-2/553458/switch-2-nintendo-confirms-c-button-price
I feel like they’re trolling us at this point. There’s no way they’re this stupid.
How is this stupid? Call it greedy or anti-consumer, but in the end it will increase Nintendo’s profits so it’s far from stupid from the company’s perspective. People buy consoles no matter how bad they are treated. Maybe you should call consumers stupid instead?
No, disrespectful business practices don’t make the public stupid
The problem is that a company can only push their greed so far before they start losing people. Up until now, most of the Nintendo hate came from their anti-emulation crusade. Now, it seems like everyone and their brother is talking about just how absurd the entirety of this launch is.
On places like reddit, Lenny, etc where there is a vocal minority complaining about this. The vast majority of consumers don’t come on here nor do they keep themselves informed. They’ll grumble at the price a bit, then buy it anyway.
I’m not talking about Lemmy. I’m talking about literally every community I’ve looked. Aside from fanboys being fanboys, the reaction has been nothing but outrage.
Nintendo can and has pushed the greed too far for even Nintendo fans before. Wii U and 3DS at launch being fairly recent examples.
I’d rather pay for a large pizza tutorial. And eat it.
“This is the stuffed crust… filled with cheese and pepperoni. It’s like calzone in a bread stick form factor!”
"Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour is described as a “virtual exhibition” of the new hardware. Per Nintendo: “through tech demos, minigames and other interactions, players will get to know the new system inside and out in ways they may never have known about otherwise.”
So its basically just something that goes on about how great and wonderful switch is? And they want you to pay for it? This is so stupid I’m not sure if its even anti consumer anymore but somehow managed to go beyond to new levels of awfulness.
It’s kind of like the Valve demo that’s free on the Steam Deck to go through all the features on the machine, except not as interesting.
Damn, Nintendo is such a crap company… What the heck is wrong with them?
Greed.
They’re Sony ca. 2006, fresh off the success of the PS2.
Or Microsoft ca. 2013, fresh off the success of the Xbox 360.
At least Sony had some justification. A new and expensive cell architecture. It was ground breaking for its time but cost too much.
Nintendo is giving us something the steam deck and other pc handhelds can do, and trying to charge $80 for games that will almost never go on sale. I can buy old steam titles for less than $10, show me an old Nintendo title that can ever sell for that amount. It’s just not a good enough proposition just to have access to a handful of $80 Nintendo titles.
Yeah, I could stomach the price of the console, but no way am I ever going to pay those outrageous prices that never go down for first party games, and without those there’s no point in getting a Switch 2 over a Steam Deck. I’ll have a lot of Nintendo games to catch up on once decent Switch 2 emulators are a thing.
This demo/manual and the driving basketball game should be included in the system.
Think back to the 3ds with head wars and AR games, no way I’m buying such games but having them makes the system a bit more valuable.
I jumped ship from Switch to handheld pc. The pc game prices was a big part, especially older games don’t hold value. For example I got Middle Earth shadow of war for like $6. I still sometimes miss my switch but I will definitely wait a while before I decide on a switch 2.
I am genuinely surprised that they’re suggesting physical games that act as keys for digital downloads. What is the point of getting a physical cartridge if you can’t play the whole game offline? I guess they’re just trying to kill physical media, and this is the first step in this direction.
resale
which handheld pc did you get?
I went for the ROG ally x
wow its like $800? would you recommend it?
Yeah it’s a hefty price tag but I wanted the extra battery. The Z1 extreme has pretty much the same performance and come with 500gb storage, with a better price tag. You can always upgrade your battery and ssd if you want to later down the line.
I love the device! The fact that I can play pc games in my hand is a huge win for me. I work in front of a pc the whole day. Last thing I want is to sit in front of a pc for gaming. But you must understand it is a pc and not a console. You have more setting and things to tinker with setting to get best performance unlike a console where it is just plug and play.
thanks, how often do you connect it to a larger screen?
I never do but I know you can. But once again it is not as easy as casting. You could for example get a dock and have Xbox remotes which could emulate a console feel. My suggestion is to do research before you buy and see if it caters for your needs. Is it a good device? Yes. Is it super user friendly? Depends on the user.
Steam deck maybe
There isn’t one reason they could give that would ever justify this for the consumer. Absolutely unacceptable and anti consumer.
TLDR: They’re greedy Bastards
Nintendo explain: " It’s not free… we want your money… all of it"
The more Nintendo talks, the worst it gets.
“Well, you see, if we give away anything for free, it has to be your organs! Our law whor… I mean lawyers cannot afford to be some of the worst people on Earth unless we make things so expensive you have to sell all your organs on the black market!” ~ Them, probably
