An autocratic country could easily spread propaganda in the democratic country, because of “free speech” rules that most democratic countries have, but a democratic country cannot easily spread its propaganda in the autocratic country.

An autocratic country can buy an election in the democratic country, but the democratic country cannot easily coup an autocratic country.

Are all democracies are doomed to fail?

Is the future of humanity, autocracy? For the rest of humanity’s existence?

  • Amnesigenic@lemmy.world
    54·
    21 hours ago

    The US has never been a democracy, we’ve never been a particularly equitable representative republic either and our government was designed this way on purpose

    • naught101@lemmy.world
      42·
      21 hours ago

      Guess it depends on how you define the term. The US certainly fits the minimalist representative definition. I don’t think equity is inherently part of the definition… Obviously I think it should be, but that’s more of a value overlaid on the organisational system, I think…

      • Amnesigenic@lemmy.world
        22·
        18 hours ago

        Literally all communication depends on how you define the terms you use, that’s the whole point of having fixed definitions for words, and the US absolutely does not fit any reasonable definition of a democracy

        • naught101@lemmy.world
          11·
          5 hours ago
          1. Fixed definitions for words do not exist. Language is constantly evolving.
          2. The US IS a representative democracy, and whether that’s actually functionally providing government by the people doesn’t really prevent this use of the term by a vast majority of people, whether you or I agree with it or not.
          3. In the context of the question, I think the US seems to fit more into the OP’s democracy category. I agree I’m using the term loosely, but does your terminology disagreement actually add anything?
          • Amnesigenic@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 hours ago

            1. Incorrect, fixed definitions don’t stay fixed forever, that doesn’t mean they aren’t fixed right now. Words mean things, if a word changes meaning in a generation or two or five it’ll mean fuck all for you right here and now.

            2. The US is not a democracy at all and never was. It was arguably at various points in time a representative republic, not a particularly good one but that’s not part of the definition.

            3. I don’t care what you think, I know you’re using the term loosely that’s my point, fucking duh

            • guy@piefed.socialEnglish
              11·
              11 hours ago

              Are you 12?

              What is a ‘reasonable definition’ of democracy according to you?

              • Amnesigenic@lemmy.world
                1·
                5 hours ago

                A 1 to 1 vote to citizen ratio that is the actual determining factor in decision making, the electoral college alone completely destroys any argument for the US being a democracy just by existing, and we’ve had that bullshit running since day one