Why is this the question people are asking? It’s a classic example of Republicans setting the narrative. I saw on a certain oft-promoted news aggregator that all the Republican news sources use the same words in reaction to the oval office event - “Zelensky refuses to apologize…”
So now that’s what the mainstream media talks about, instead of the worrying Trump-Vance-Musk turn towards Russia.
Most Americans that watched it don’t think he did anything wrong, either. Even a lot of conservatives think Trump’s behavior was disgraceful.
Nah bud, you good. It’s the other jackasses in the meeting that were in the wrong.
He told the truth. Normally that is fine, but not in a room with a despot like Trump. So yea, that’s a big whoopsie when you are trying to get US aid from that despot. Zelensky is a great guy, and a terrible politician.
It was an ambush. The only thing he did wrong was walk into it. Have to give him credit for being willing to take risks to save his country.
That is who he is…
The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride
As an American I think he did…. He forgot to slap Trump in the face.
I understand why he didn’t, obviously, but the whole time I watched that happen all I could think was, “PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE”
I assume he must have gone back to his hotel room afterwards and just screamed in frustration for a solid hour. Or had a workout of with a punching bag with Trump and Vance’s faces on them.
I’m truly astounded at the patience he showed during that event. It was infuriating to watch.
Same.
We all know liberals would fall all over themselves to try and beat right wingers to the virtue signaling of insisting how bad they think it is.
damn truest shit ever said
Well, he did try to play chess with a pigeon. I don’t know what he was expecting, but at least he made Trump seem like an asshole and a fool.
He made Trump seem like an asshole yes. And that’s why he’s cooked . Trump is not going to support Ukraine going forward because Zelensky made him look bad. You have to appeal to the child to get anything from him.
Giving into a toddler who is throwing a tantrum, is not how you get what you want from a toddler .
It’s how you get more tantrums.
He cannot get anything from Trump no matter what happens. Trump is beholden to Putin.
There was no amount of flattery that was going to get Trump to oppose his Russian masters. The best thing Zelenskyy can do is make it clear that Trump is foolish for not backing Ukraine. It wins him points with European leaders who get to choose between backing Zelenskyy or following a fool and it increases the odds of getting a more favorable outlook from the US in 2-4 years as political tides shift (assuming the US continues holding a semblance of fair elections in the next 2-4 years)
Nah, it’s too late for that. Other leaders are starting learn this too. You keep giving in so Trump asks for more, and then more. Nothing will ever be enough for him.
This is no longer about swallowing your pride and appealing to his enormous ego.
As an American, he did not. I’m sure he felt like he was in bizarro land where he acts perfectly reasonable and everyone around him is fucking crazy. That’s how all us non-MAGAts feel, too.
Yeah, I though Zelensky did a decent job of managing his emotions. Most of us would have popped Trump in the mouth before that had ended. (And WTF was up with that guy asking if Zelensky owned a suit? That should have been an automatic throat punch.) Being an American is embarrassing right now. My apologies to the rest of the world. We’re a dumpster fire.
The answer to the suit question should have been like, “Russia destroyed my suit and Ukraine’s tailors are too busy sewing up wounds to spend time making a new one.”
I think his actual reply was even better
It was SO GOOD! “I’ll wear a costume after the war, maybe something like yours”
It’s funny because I’m sure he didn’t mean to be as snarky in that comment. “Costume” means “suit” in Ukrainian and Russian.
“Maybe something cheaper”
Subtle dig, I’m sure it went way over their head.
His attire has been a talking point of the pro-Russians for quite some time. It’s supposed to denote a lack of respect or something.
Yeah, just like they would complain if he did wear a suit. There’s just no winning with these guys.
Every foreign dignitary who visits the White House should wear a tan suit just for fun.
that dude is marjorie taylor green’s husband
That really does explain a lot. People (and I use that term very loosely here) like that should be launched into orbit and fucking left there to think about what they’ve done.
Reminded me of a typical argument between me and my delusional, selfish, narcissistic parents as a teenager. Saying anything at all would make them throw a tantrum.
Trump and Vance did the same type of thing: expected complete fealty after they had voted against Ukraine to join NATO and demanded respect when the previous administration were the ones that did most of the work beforehand. Getting pouty and shouty when he didn’t agree to their shitty “deal.” Brought up meaningless arguments about “respect” and not saying thank you when he had multiple times. Utter madness.
This was about putting on a show for their constituents and they would have done the same if he went in there kissing their asses. But he refused to play the game which made them angrier.
Vance bringing up the conspiracy theory shit about Zelensky putting on a show for visitors as if he was exaggerating is what really set me off. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together saw right through this bullshit song and dance.
Yeah it was just bizarre… the “stupid president” helped you… so you need to thank me.
A White House official told Axios that Zelensky’s interview on Fox was insufficient. “He keeps insisting on security guarantees on this economic deal, and we’ve made clear that won’t be part of this,” the official said.
Yeah doh! If we give you actually security guarantees how are we going to let Putin invite you again next year?
You can’t have everything zelenski! We can, and we want, but you can’t.
He didn’t. He was the only adult there.
B-b-but he didn’t wear a SUIT! The horror.
100%. I wish I ever could have been as proud of any of our presidents.
The only person who did something wrong was Trump, supported by his deputy. They did not only verbally attack Ukraine (and, by doing so, Europe), Trump and Vance didn’t even pretend to make a case for American interests, given Vance’s complaint about Zelensky who thanked U.S. ammunition workers in Pennsylvania when he travelled there, because, in the new U.S. administration’s view, this is seen as a support for the Democratic party.
The only positive thing is that the meeting was held in front of TV cameras so the world could witness the self-sabotage of the United States of America. A ‘behind the scene’ treachery would supposedly be much more harmful to Ukraine. The picture becomes more complete if we look that earlier this week, the U.S. had already voted at the United Nations against Ukraine, siding with Russia and China.
But now, the truth is out: The two men now holding the highest office in the White House are ready to sell the U.S. and its allies to the worst dictators on the globe, as Trump literally admires bad persons as he has been saying over and again. This is a signal the world has finally received. In Ukraine and Europe, but also in Taiwan, and the rest of the Asia-Pacific region, in Africa, in Latin America. It’s a tough issue for Ukraine and the democratic world that must now reorganize.
But the toughest long-term challenge is already out for the U.S. Its allies’ lost trust won’t recover, and the world’s dictators will pursue their own goals (maybe even more than ever). The United States are alone in a connected, globalized world. And this means that, with or without Trump at the helm, it’ll become increasingly difficult to make America great again.
I am convinced that this is not what the majority of U.S. people want for their country.
[Edit typo.]
I’m worried America won’t be alone for long. Other countries have fascists to deal with too.
If we resist them, we save the world. If we fail, the new world order will be Nazis everywhere.
They’re not alone - they’re already on Russia’s side.
He did nothing wrong. Trump and Vance were the ones who threw a tantrum because zelensky didn’t immediately agree to their plan.
And they were pissed he didn’t wear a suit 🤣
The only situation where Kash Patel would have had useful input!
WTF was up with that guy?
That guy is Brian Glenn. He’s a host on “Real America’s Voice”, a right-wing to far-right station and the boyfriend of Marjory Taylor Greene.
The attending “press” has been pre-selected and it’s not a stretch to assume that these people know what’s expected of them. The narrative is that not wearing a suit is a sign of disrespect. When Trump greeted Zelensky in the beginning he also made a remark about it.
Since I don’t watch I can only presume that they give equal time to Musk’s disrespect then, too.
Exactly, it was all a setup to push the narrative that Ukraine doesn’t respect the Oval Office. Same reason Couch Fucker Vance kept saying “you haven’t even said thank you once.”
Which is a blatant lie because Zelensky has thanked the US many times… But that was under Biden.
They wanted more thank you and possibly a genuflection.
They want it to considered purely as a business deal. Any reminder that Zelenskyy is leading a country that’s fighting a war to defend their country from a dictator doesn’t fit their narrative.
He did nothing wrong. Trump and Vance are comprised cowards. I’m sorry Ukraine.
