• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    If the courts had intervened to stop Brian Thompson before his healthcare murder spree then maybe Luigi wouldn’t be being prosecuted right now. This trial isnt about luigi, its about covering up the chain of political failures that led us here.

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      A single death is a tragedy; A million deaths is a statistic.

      Luigi killed a dad, husband, ceo, etc, etc etc.

      Brian just inflated some numbers…

      I hate how the world works.

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      I’d lick a boot if they payed enough, but they’re not. I get that other people are worse off than me, but seriously, what the fuck? The current regime isn’t paying. period. I’m angry and I don’t know what to do with it.

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        What makes a bootlicker is that they continue to lick the boot even when it isn’t paying off in the slightest.

        But you are right, there is no longer any reward for participating in society. The wealthy have forgotten fear.

        Life under Capitalism was better while there was a sizable Communist bloc on the other side of the world. The fear that the commoners might wake up and make their voices heard by force of violence resulted in all manner of concessions. Unions were stronger, public services were estabilished, workers’ rights were signed into law. Then the Soviets showed weakness in the eighties, and the Capitalist class was quick to invent Neoliberalism and begin the slow but assured gutting of all those concessions. While manufacturing consent through the media and convincing people that this was what they actually wanted.

        Now we see the end result.

        As for what to do about it, I don’t fucking know either. Because the only thing that is known to work would require a mass movement of a size that I don’t think even can be achieved nowadays. Society is too fragmented. People are too propagandised.

        I have basically embraced doomer hedonism. Life will not get better, so I make a point to just enjoy myself as much as possible, I have no intention of breeding more slaves for their flesh-mill, and I personally hope to die young. (to a definition of young anyway, I’m this close to being legally considered ‘middle aged’)

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    Gonna wanna see the source code on that “Pray” button. I don’t think it actually does anything.

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      Not really, Luigi already had tons of money.

      What it means is a legislator who might have actually had a positive impact on changing US Healthcare did NOT receive a 30k donation.

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        We can’t outspend the health insurance industry, especially not in the long run. Legislators will always side with those who can continually give large donations and pay full-time lobbyists. It is incredibly naive - bordering on delusional - to think we can take on even just one sector of the oligarchy by working within their captured system.

        Now is the time to apply pressure from the outside, organize and build our own mechanisms for affecting change. This will require solidarity, and for people to make collective and coordinated use of their agency with regards to their labor and spending.

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          The DNC literally passed laws against large campaign contributions decades ago, it was overturned by the SCOTUS citizens united decision years later, and has been a core DNC platform policy ever since to reverse citizens united.

          So yes, you can, but people aren’t, because people are idiots.

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            I’m not really even arguing that people should give up working within the system, just that it very clearly isn’t enough. If you haven’t noticed, we’re losing big. Even when the Democrats win, can’t you see how little they are able to accomplish? When you play a game that’s rigged against you, you have to get creative and look for solutions that are outside the bounds of the rules that have been set before us.

            Your misplaced faith in the Democratic party is blinding you to the reality of our situation. Even within the party we have lost ground to the oligarchs, meaning our access to political power has been compromised. To take it back will require us to fight on two fronts, both within and outside the system.

            So yes, you can, but people aren’t, because people are idiots.

            Stop this. You have become jaded and cynical, which is understandable, but it’s causing you to accept a very dangerous premise. We didn’t get here because people are just idiots, the ruling class out-organized us. To believe that people are simply too stupid to fight back is to accept defeat.

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              “Clearly isn’t enough” there is no other course. You’re just trying to steer the ship into rocks as a shortcut.

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                Let’s stop talking around the issue. I’m referring to union organizing, general strikes, boycotts, mutual aid, direct action, etc. Would you consider those things “steering the ship into rocks?” Do you really think our only viable course of action is to do nothing except show up to vote on election days? We have to organize, and the Democratic leadership is uninterested in helping. Grassroots liberal progressive groups like MoveOn and Indivisible have been doing that work for them, and the Democratic leadership has been actively hostile towards them.

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                  No you aren’t, you’re in a comment section where people are being pushed to worship murder and you’re defending the murder worship. Nice try.

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            it was overturned by the SCOTUS citizens united decision years later

            So it was overturned decades ago, was never reinstated, and you think that’s an example of a win?

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              1. No, it was overturned in 2010, not decades ago. The law the decision overturned was the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, which was over 2 decades ago. The DNC had been trying to pass it since 1995.

              2. You people always complain about a party not changing things when we NEVER give them the power to do so.

              President Barack Obama and Senator John Kerry called for an amendment to overrule the decision but it went ignored. In 2011, Senator Bernie Sanders proposed the Saving American Democracy Amendment, which would reverse the court’s ruling, LINK HERE. Bernie Sanders and others have repeatedly introduced bills to reverse it ever since.

              The reason things are the way they are is because people vote Republican. Full Stop.

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                when we NEVER give them the power to do so

                “We” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. I’m not voting Republican, you’re not voting Republican, and Luigi isn’t voting Republican.

                “do nothing about it until the midterms at which point we will suddenly convince 200 million people to vote Democrat” isn’t going to cut it.

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    I don’t want to dampen the good mood, but even if this is sent anonymously, is there any risk of the information of who is the donor being hacked, especially by corporate overlords who have every incentive to see Luigi and his supporters get punished?

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      It’s anonymous to us, not the website. Payments are the most trackable thing in the world

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      Proxy account or donor is outside US, in a suitable country

      Edit: There is legal protection, so if that donor doesn’t have any potentially problematic business it’s safe ig.

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    Lol, it’s the Schrödinger’s guilt. The news is supposed to be uplifting both because the guy is praised as a hero for killing someone and because he is presumed not guilty.

    Personally, i don’t have any sympathy for him, regardless he’s guilty or not, some things he said are really disgusting.

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      Nobody deserves to be put in prison for allegedly killing CEOs, whether they did it or not.

      “You stand accused of saving the lives of sick puppies with cancer. The penalty is death. How do you plead?”

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      Martin Luther thing said some disgusting things, if you lived back then, would you have no sympathy either?

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      I don’t know anything about what he said, but I can’t condone murder - especially if it was for nothing.

      It’s Schrödinger’s vigilantism.

      Part of me wants there to be a vigilante hunting down those who prey on the weak by breaking the social contract.

      But another part of me doesn’t think the people who would be willing to do said hunting should even be free in society to begin with.

      Clearly something(s) has to change, but what?

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        I just think that sending your own hard owned money to a murderer is pathetic, and everyone else upvoting this and encouraging this disgusting behaviour are also pathetic. This complete loss of all morals and integrity just because a victim was in a situation you politivally disagree with is completely embarassing.

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          That a health insurance company’s CEO getting killed receives so much support from so many people cannot be explained away by “political disagreement”. It is clear that the world is in a psychological crisis which affects everyone and billionaires who treat the world as a computer game are generally to blame. This guy is just a cog in the machine maybe an aspiring billionaire at best but not likely the one pulling the strings (such as share holders). Disregarding this reaction as the deviant behaviour of few politically charged individuals would be very far from the truth and is also likely the mistake that will be made by billionaires.

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          But making donations to a convicted felon who claims to be super rich and is nothing more than a con man and sexual abuser is ok? I choosing to stand with Luigi.