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Thank you for bringing some sanity to the discussion
Thank you for bringing some sanity to the discussion
They’re a Filipino. Not exactly an infamous source of antisemitists. And ‘88’ may mean something in the west, but here in Asia it generally means nothing more than your birth year.
Are we now accusing others of antisemitism based on nothing more than a few random letters? WTF?
Infamous implies somebody is famous in a negative way. If anything, Gabe is a shining example that should be upheld.
Not sure why you’re citing US law when we’re discussing foreign govts. Also the obvious thing signal can do, that most complainants would probably expect as a minimum, is banning their accounts and closing the group.
I don’t get what you’re trying to say at all. If a party is in a group chat and reports it, they can provide their credentials to Signal to enable Signal to view the contents of the chat.
Yes, they’re a carrier that does not know the content of what they carry. But once they are made aware, the legal system considers them to now bear responsibility if they don’t take action. Whether or not that’s fair is a pretty large topic, though I’m inclined to think so myself.
Funny how the .ml admins are so opposed to free speech on their own server, then.
Yes, but we’re discussing group chats disseminating piracy links. Do you think it’s harder to join such a group chat and report it to signal than it is to do all the cloak and dagger nonsense?
In a group chat, M wouldn’t be a 3rd party.
Shame it’s only THEIR children they give a damn about
Becky sounds fun. Got her number?
Hope she’s doing well, shame what the CCP did to her
Xitter is pretending that this is about free speech and censorship.
It’s not.
Yes it is. Especially considering that Xitter is an American company and this is legal by American law, again, Australia is overstepping its authority. It doesn’t matter that Musk is a PoS. It doesn’t matter that I personally want the video gone myself. What matters is Australia does not have the legal authority to make decisions affecting the entire world.
Your comparison to CSE is disingenuous as CSE is illegal worldwide, or at least in every country that matters. This video is not.
Sure. If the Christchurch group or Aussie govt wants to call them out for not honouring their agreement, shame them, kick them out, whatever, that’s fine. I’m all for that. Fuck Xitter. I fully understand there’s nothing noble about their motives. There is however a difference between that and legally forcing a platform to censor content worldwide. Australia is claiming legal authority over the entire world, how do you not see the issue there?
What point are you trying to make here? I’ve already stated that the content is objectionable, and that ideally Xitter should have taken it down themselves. The problem I, and everybody else here, has is that Australia does not have the authority to unilaterally decide what content the entire world may or may not access. This is regardless of the video content and it would be nice if you could discuss the actual point.
It may be legal and appropriate according to Australian law. That doesn’t mean the rest of us around the world are ok with abiding by their laws and whatever they decide is ‘acceptable’ for us to watch. Especially given Australia’s history of censorship when it comes to media and culture.
Again, they’re not obeying the Christchurch agreement they signed. I agree with you on that point. That was not the point of my comment.
What’s the relevance?
I agree with the Christchurch Call, that platforms, media and govts should avoid disseminating and giving publicity to terrorists and their causes. If Xitter were to take down content for that reason, I’d applaud them. However, that is a voluntary agreement that should be self-enforced by the signatories upon themselves. Nothing there gives Australia the right to determine for the rest of the world what content may or may not be shared online.
Musk is an ass, but this is a complex issue that goes way beyond Australia. Many govts are censoring content on social media within their countries. The last thing they need is precedent allowing them to remove videos from a platform entirely worldwide.
This is one side of the story. It’s entirely possible CF did provide those details