ads with install buttons always are traps. and traps are always bad (except snmp traps, those are good but unreliable)

same way ads at download pages stating “proceed to download” are traps.

also ads at search result pages stating " 1 2 3 4 … next" are traps too.

for the “sponsored” note: there is no boundary here that makes it really clear for what that ‘sponsored’ is meant for. without any boundary it could be for something above it, below it, on the side or maybe even something that opens when you click on “sponsored” itself (seen it this way once). it could be for an ad that just failed to load (noticed the free space above that “sponsored” text? maybe the ad loads a bit later just to shift the real contents down so you “accidently” click on the ad that loads intentionally late for this very accident to be likely to happen?) if you use adblockers - which you should do for security reasons anyway - then you’ll see “sponsored” or “advertising” often even without the ad it was meant for after full load of the page. so a single “sponsored” without a clear boundary showing what would be that sponsored content, does not state anything to be an ad, it is purely meaningless and the lack of such boundary always is intentional to distract the user from what he wanted and trap him somehow.

a clear thumbs-down for ‘zoho assist’ from me here just for paying for (or trying out for free or such) such an advertising type.

And in most cases ads simply beeing ads are traps too. by the very concept of ads.

around 80 % of all things i actually still wanted after i bought them were recommendations by people i met in person. 15 % are things recommended by real persons i met on the internet. around 5% are things i bought without it beeing recommded by anyone (not even an ad) things i still wanted after i bought it due to an ad are nearly not existant. ok, i have stopped viewing television in 1997, have a sticker at my postbox that forbids to throw ads in (works where i live), use dns entries to remove most ads in my network, use browsers/extension that remove most crapjunkwastelitterrubbishads and skip webpages that still show too many ads or too offensive cookieterrorbanners. i use google search only sometimes for comparison of results, but near to zero for actual searching. i feel safe to say i am not that much distracted by ads. (however open source projects and authors do get money from me on a monthly basis, where i want to support them, either direct lly sent from my bank account or indirect).

for me personally an ad just saying “you might like this” drives me away from that product, if it needs or wants an ad, i don’t want it, even more so the more it states how difficult and horrible my life would be without the product or how easy it’ll be with it, go away ad-needing products, get recommended personally by those who actually use it, not by those who want to sell it. period. there is no better ad than true recommendation and its also free, no marketing monkey needs to get payed for bs, only an actually good product is needed… and there we go what types of products actually need ads…

once in my life i discovered a product that i first explicitly not bought for a decade because of the awful ad for it, but bought it another decade later by an absentminded accident and found it to be a good product despite its awful ad. then they increased packaging/reduced the product within to cover up a price increase in trade of more waste production, so i abandoned that product again and found something cheaper more eco friendly instead, yes, the cheaper one is really not as good, but i feel better with it and especially less betrayed by the vendor, so the eco one is the better one alltogether. and also i think its better to buy products where you don’t see ads for cause this behaviour could actually fix this advertising storm in the long run, so in this way its the better choice to buy products that don’t have ads for it.

again:

An ad with an install button is always a trap, even more so when the real install follows a single misclick on it. il’d say it would be quite fair to downvote/zerostars an app for how foulish-sneaky it was positioned in the search results if it is shown like an actual result with a f’ing install button. as its advertising type is always also part of the brand and the product itself. maybe make a sports out of that, klick the clickbait install buttons only to downvote the app for beeing intrusive and deinstall it again without even starting the app once, just to train advertisers to do it right instead of wrong next time. maybe. but for security reasons better don’t do that (at least not with a device with sensitive data on it)

please do not blame users to fall for ads. advertising industry now had centuries to learn to trap users and literally thousands or millions of marketing guys, designers, psycologists, neurologists or whatever only to learn and establish new abusive ways to distract and trap users. but a user only has his own lifespan to counteract that and learn to avoid those manipulations, and he also has to do other important stuff in his life too.

please don’t blame users for beeing humans. blame the industry where they are intentionally abusive, inhumane and/or counterproductive.

we need an adblockers blockers blocker

no, what is needed is an app that helps track who benefits from thr apps that annly you most:

• ownership of companies pushing annoying ads
• management of companies pushing annoying ads
• find the connection between those and the products you maybe want to buy in shops or in internet before you buy, then instead of buying, let the app send the seller a message that you did not buy because of that connection.
• do this in numbers with lots of people and see what happens to the advertising jungle

the point is NOT buying because of advertising AND let them know it, so they can learn to improve themselves.

they wanted your data? let them have it the way you want them to.

same with any platform. ask the creator of your choice to also publish using patreon and you’ll become a member then, getting the content free of ads. better more directly pay who does the actual work, not all the big tech harvesting all the benefit inbetween.

so what maybe is needed here could be a free or even self-hostable platform that also allows payed subscriptions.

really, yt stopped to play sound on the website for me (beeing logged in), there is a banner to “activate sound” but it always disappears unclickable fast, so i searched and found webtube, an app that basically loads their website, but has one feature youtube has not: “sound” *lol

now i wonder how many of these apps really are “third” party apps and not really theirs only masked as third party for getting that gain of trust all the “others” get when it comes to big techs with their very own “public” crime records …

would be too easy for them to create some small apps, act as if those were 3rd party software but harvest that spyoil (of the 21 century) anyway.

unfuckingbelievable

if you want that without the “un” prefix, then youtube is maybe just the wrong platform for you.

and i strongly believe that youtube “wants” to force more usage of peertube, vimeo and others by enshitting yt every day a bit more. and they really work hard for that.

its partly sarcasm, but i have only seen one group of such poorly administrated countries that i’ve heared their president announcing a “war between good and evil” which IS by itself a religious thing and that following “commanded” war WAS against unwanted religions (called the axis of evil) and as i now learn again(!) also very specifically against that so called constitution. Was that religious action against religions prosecuted? Where surviving victims payed compensation? i guess not. So my question stays a true question, did they recently started to follow their constitution?

That specific war was acompanied with the very same types of lies that they always use to make it look like killing and destroying would actually be for something good but always is only for political power, exploiting other nations, getting oil and other resources for free or hellish cheap or to humilitate other religions, cultures, nations. Has there been a war they fought that was “not” also for oil in the first place? i remember that one guy answered this positive with the name of a war, then after looking into details that war also was about oil. No i do not believe all the other lies around reasons for that specific war either.

I cant say that i ever saw the US stand for freedom of religion. But i saw them fight a fking religious war. And i see that Mnt Rushmore IS a fking Monument for all to remember that they always until today gave a shit on their “freedom of religion” laws - they also highly disrespect properties of others if they just want to have it or want to harm someone by taking it away. But i personally believe that the rushmore monument was only build to harm the Religion of the locals who are also the lawful owners of that mountain until today. And that at least since building of mnt rushmore there had not been a single day, not a single hour or minute when the US acted like they would really care “freedom of religion” or care to not(!) intentionally harm religions they might dislike for whatever reason, the opposite is the case, they do harm them and do so for religious reasons and it looks more than “only intentional” to me, more like real madness. (i am not talking about the people, but only about who the people allowed to call themselves the leaders of the people - btw, have you recently had a president elected by the majority of people, or was it the opposite really? well different story there but similar broken like nearly everything you hear about the US…) And mnt rushmore is only one obvious and daily public showcase example of actively disrespecting religions and lawful ownership - at least if these owners happen to be a religious group they “proactively disrespect” of course. Did you read that story where recently a gov official named a sacred event of natives to be “the” event or cause of drug trafficking from other countries or such? obviously wrong and directly against a specific religion. was that prosecuted? didn’t hear about that “follow the constitution” part of that story, guess that part just does not exist and never will…

Is that what that “glorious” constitution is about? “disallowing” laws or orders against other religions while at the same time allowing to just kill others for religious purposes and just ignoring ownership laws just bcs its a religion they want to harm or just humilitating them at will?

Now ask any in the US to tell me Mnt Rushmore would be a great monument of the Fathers/Founders of the Nation or such and so on, without sounding fanatically religous while as a nation doing literally the same with mnt rushmore for so many ages now what he’ld say some other nation on the other side of the world would not be allowed to do right now bcs that is such a bad thing and his great nation would be so much “the good one” bcs it is fighting against such evil bastards who are taking land by force which is not their rightful own? How would that anybody tell me that without sounding fanatically religious and insane at the same time? now i see this as a rethoric question and do neither expect one nor really want to read or hear such attempts…

but how should one react to such a nation if not with sarcasm when they act like such shit? do ya believe when they tell you your nation wouldn’t be such bastards while you visit such a monument of ‘disrespecting religion and commanding other property to be destroyed for humulitation’? i’ld feel ashamed that such a nonument even happened to exist in the first place.

now again, did they give mnt rushmore back to the lawful owners, thus stopping a governmental “command” against a religion? if so, i guess i’ld have heared about it in the news already, maybe with different headlines, but that would be a show, the us finally sticking to their own laws after centuries !! no, i do not see any such constitution in real effect over there, not today and not during the past centuries as far as i can tell of what i know, read or have heard. And repeating lies does not make them real, it just makes all who do so look stupid in the long run.

one cannot ‘have’ or ‘own’ code of ethics, one can live it or not. there is no ‘having’ morality without really living it. one does not “have” a constitution if that constitution is not lived all the way. maybe imagine a bank robber who’se very own code of ethics forbid robbing banks but he did so anyway and says some lies as excuse which only pass “gramatic” tests on it to show ar least any “correctness” but all other tests not? and due to his lies and his code of ethics he would not be charged to give back the money he robbed but can live free and enjoy the money gain because he pinned some code-of-ethics on his fridge… only sometimes acting like something is mostly only faking it.

remember: “not” cheating only while your wife is around, still is cheating ALL the time. Same with constitutions.

i did no see them obey their constitution yet. did they start to do so recently?

a genious man once said:

“they should(!) teach them the bible !! … and then also point out precisely where and how the catholic church evilish manipulated some parts to enpower them to abuse even more where the bible really told people how to see through their lies to get rid of such demonic abusers.”

or so i’ve heared once long ago.

i think this is called “to howl with the wolfes” ;o) so why revolt when acting in 100% conformity solves the root problem even better ?

yes 💪

or maybe thats the hiring strategy to get more woman into tech jobs 😂 … and we have reserved private toilets !! …

we are a tech company. we had several floors in two near but separate buildings. we had as many toilets for woman as we had for men. basically each floor had one for woman and one for men which had a pissoir too. as we had > 90% men, mens toilets always had a waiting line after lunch time (not for the pissoir, however). on one floor the only woman was a trainee who (normal here) often had to go to school for 3weeks in a row, that was when men just used womens toilet as there was no woman to use it on the floor and the other woman on the other floor of that building literally had her very own toilet to share with no one. (rest of all the woman happened to work in the other building)

then the company started to build its own building to leave the rental situation and at the same time to better longterm meet some necessarities that come along with the market niche that the company serves. (there are some laws regulating some physical aspects of the building for our services.)

one if the promises was, that the “toilet situation” would be improved with the new building.

the new building then had larger toilets on each floor. the space was then used to still have one toilet for men, but now there were two pissoirs! and two large sinks just for washing hands. yay! womens bathroom now have 3 toilets on each floor each and also the large sinks too. same amount of toilets for 90% of empleyee, the 10% have now triple number toilets they had before and double the space for washing, using mirror etc.

The woman basically gets her own.

exactly, and when men don’t have enough toilets, women actually gets build more of them to “statistically” solve the problem !! 🤣

is normal for kidneys…

its quite normal to read such stuff in propaganda times, without them needing to happen at all. and it has always been like this.

• The good’ol cursing seemed to work without radio or someone actually listening
• it seems boeing was already cursed with parasites in high positions. not sure if additional cursing could actually increase a long painful death curse by anything other than its duration.
• The “pick them up” they’ld rather want, does not work through radio yet, rescue missions for biological personnel sadly still need to be made of/by solids.
• unfortunately radio is a bit flawed during the plasma phase of reentry, while i think the plasma phase ‘is’ the reentry, before is only getting closer, after its basically flying or gliding/falling down, maybe parachuting. the plasma is a bit of a barrier for radio signals they said long ago. however i was quite surprised to see a new "documentation’ lately about the columbia shuttle during reentry where i was sure the original documentation said that they were in the no-radio phase due to plasma while the new ‘documentation’ said they could communicate through radio even seconds before the destruction of the shuttle, the new documentation even showed they had sensor metrics about first sensors to measure high temp while afaik those sensors were initially later installed only “because” of the aftermath for this very nasa failure … so could be that also the informations we got from tha liers about the plasma phase is also a bit “flawed”.
• last, i’ld guess that they don’t have equipment for amateur radio frequencies on board, all involved are picky about overall rather “deadly” leaking of informations important for the public.

so to answer your question: my guess is no one will.

i’ld try to stick some googly eyes on a headband to wear when driving. if it does not help, its at least good for a selfie.

after looking at the ticket myself i think the relevant things IMHO are:

• a person filed a bug report due to not seeing what changes in the new version caused a different behaviour
• that person seemed pushy, first telling the dev where patches should be sent to (is this normal? i guess not, better let the dev decide where patches go or -in this case- if patches are needed at all), then coming up with ceo style wordings (highly visible, customer experience of untested but nevertheless released to live product is bad due to this (implicitly “your”) bug)
• pushiness is counterparted by “please help”
• free-of-charge consulting was given by the one pointing to changes likely beeing visible in changelog (i did not look though) but nevertheless it was pointed out to the parameter which assumes RTFM (if docs were indeed updated) that a default value had changed and its behavior could be adjusted by using that given parameter.

up to there that person -belonging to M$ or not (don’t know and don’t care) - behaved IMHO rather correctly, submitting a bug report for something that looked like it, beeing a bit pushy, wanting priority, trying to command, but still formally at least “asking” for help. but at that point the “bug” seemed to have been resolved to me, it looks like the person was either not reading the manual and changelog, or maybe manual or changelog lacks that information, but that was not stated later so i guess that person just did not read neither changelog nor manual.

instead - so it seems to me - that person demanded immediate and free-of-charge consulting of how exactly the switch should be used to work in that specific use case which would imply the dev looks into the example files, maybe try and error for himself just so that that person does not need to neither invest the time to learn use the software the company depends on, nor hire a consultant to do the work.

i think (intentional or not) abusing a bug tracker for demanding free-of-charge enduser consulting by a dev is a bad idea unless one wants(!) to actively waste the precious time of the dev (that high priority ticket for the highly visible already live released product relies on) or has even worse intentions like:

• uploading example files with exploits in them, pointing to the exact versions that include the RCE vulnerability that sample file would abuse and the “bug” was just reported cause it fits the version needed for exploitation and pressure was made by naming big companies to maybe make the dev run a vulnerable version on it on his workstation before someone finds out, so that an upstream attack could take place directly on the devs workstation. but thats just creating a fictive worst case scenario.

to me this clearly looks like a “different culture” problem. in companies where all are paid from basically the same employer, abusing an internal bug tracker for quick internal consulting would probably be seen as just normal and best practice because the dev who knows and is actually working on the code is likely to have the solution right at hand without thinking much while the other person, who is in charge of quick fixing an untested but already live to customers released product, does not have sufficient knowledge of how the thing works and neither is given the time to learn or at least read changelogs and manual nor the time to learn the basics of general upstream software culture.

in companies the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle could be a problem that imho likely leads to such situations, but this is a guess as i know nobody working there and i am not convinced that that person is in fact working for the named company, instead in that ticket shows up a name that i would assume to be a reason to not rely too much about names in the tickes system always be realnames.

the behaviour that causes the bad postings here in this lemmy thread is to me likely “just” a culture problem and that person would be advised well if told to learn to know the open source culture, netiquette etc and learn to behave differently depending on to who, where and how they communicate with, what to expect and how to interact productively to the benefit of their upstream too, which is the “real price” all so often in open source. it could be that in the company that rolled out the untested product it is seen to be best practice to immediately grab the dev who knows a software and let him help you with whatever you can’t on your own (for whatever reason) whenever you manage to encounter one =]

i assume the pushyness could likely come from their hierarchy. it is not uncommon that so called leaders just create pressure to below because they maybe have no clue of the thing and not want to gain that clue, but that i cannot know, its just a picture in my head. but in a company that seems to put pressure on releasing an untested product to customers i guess i am not too wrong with the direction of that assumption. what the company maybe should learn is that releasing untested and/or unfinished products to live is a bad habit. but i also assume that if they wanted to learn that, they maybe would have started to learn it like roundabout 2 decades ago. again, i do not know for what company that person works -or worked- for, could be just a subcontractor of the named one too. and also could be that the pushyness (telling its for m$, that its live, has impact to customers etc) was really decided by someone up the latter who would have literally no experience at all on how to handle upstream in such situations. hierarchies can be very dysfunctional sometimes and in companies saying “impact to customers” sometimes is likely the same as saying “boss says asap”.

what i would suggest their customers (those who were given a beta version as production ready) should learn is that when someone (maybe) continously delivers differently than advertised, that after some few times of experiencing this, the customer would be insane when assuming that that bad behaviour would vanish by pure hope + throwing money into hands where money maybe already didn’t help improving their habits for assumingly decades. And when feeding everhungry with money does not resolve the problems, that maybe looking towards those who do have a non-money-dependant grown-up culture could actually provide more really usable products. Evaluation of new solutions (which one would really be best for a specific usecase i.e.) or testing new versions before really rolling them out to live might be costly especially when done throughout, but can provide a lot of really high valueable stability otherwise unreachable by those who only throw money at shareholders of brands and maybe rely on pure hope for all of the rest. Especially when that brand maybe even officially anounced to remove their testing department ;+) what should a sane and educated customer expect then ? but again to note, i do not know which companies really are involved and how exactly. from the ticket i do not see which company that person directly works for, nor if the claim that m$ is involved is a fact or just a false claim in hope for quicker help (companies already too desperate to test products before live could be desperate again in need for even more help when their bad habits piled up too long and begin falling on their heads)

the xz vulnerability was done through a superflous dependency to systemd, xz was only the library that was abused to use systemd’s superflous dependency hell. sshd does not use xz, but systemd does depend on it. sshd does not need systemd, but it was attacked through its library dependency.

we should remove any pointless dependencies that can be found on a system to prevent such attacks in future by reducing dependency based attack vectors to a minimum.

also we should increase the overall level of privilege separation where systemd is a good bad example, just look at the init binary and its capability zoo.

The company who hired “the” systemd developer should IMHO start to really fix these issues !

so please hold your “$they have fixed it” back until the the root cause that made the xz dependency level attack possible in the first place has been really fixed =)

Of course pointing it out was good, but now the root cause should be fixed, not just a random symptom that happened to be the first visible atrack that used this attack vector introduced by systemd.

usually at first you can do such, and later on, when a ceo wants more money, you then can buy that together with the new “pro” features actually nobody needs nor wants.

maybe better look for more stable solutions before they start acting like a broadcom ;-)

there was a study saying that there is not “the” best way of learning, but it is best to combine multiple ways, like with an app, by book, listening to audio only (i listened to radio stations via internet and got some exercise for free), a bit of talking, visiting a country that only speaks that language and so on. trying everything a bit in parallel.

that is because of our brain learns better when given more different types of “connections” to learn.

i started with duolingo (website only, not the app and only the free parts) 4 years ago and now i speak quite fluently. but i also partly read a book about grammatics, visited a spanish speaking country (more than once), viewed movies with only subtitle in my language and did lots of phone calls in spanish only.

my advice is:

look at free apps, whatever pleases you, take chances, listen to the sound (movies, radio), try to speak, and read easy books or go through exercise books.

duolingo is good to keep on going while not really motivated as the shortest thing that counts are really only minutes and one can choose to do something that is already easy. this way at least continuation is kept even if pace is down for a while. and it is much easier to go on with pace when not having really stopped.

i am happy to have a raspberry pi setup connected to a VLAN switch, internet is behind a modem (like bridged mode) connected with ethernet to one switchport while the raspi routes everything through one tagged physical GB switchport. the setup works fine with two raspi’s and failover without tcp disconnections during an actual failover, only few seconds delay when that happens, so basically voip calls recover after seconds, streaming is not affected, while in a game a second off might be too much already, however as such hardware failures happen rarely, i am running only one of them anyway.

for firewall i am using shorewall, while for some special routing i also use unbound dns resolver (one can easily configure static results for any record) and haproxy with sni inspection for specific https routing for the rather specialized setup i have.

my wifi is done by an openwrt but i only use it for having separate wifis bridged to their own vlans.

thus this setup allows for multi-zone networks at home like a wifi for visitors with daily changing passwords and another fror chromecast or home automation, each with their own rules, hardware redundancy, special tweaking, everything that runs on gnu/linux is possible including pihole, wireguard, ddns solutions, traffic statistics, traffic shaping/QOS, traffic dumps or even SSL interception if you really want to import your own CA into your phone and see what data your phones apps (those that don’t use certificate pinning) are transfering when calling home, and much more.

however regarding ddns it sometimes feels more safe and reliable to have a somehow reserved IP that would not change. some providers offer rather cheap tunnels for this purpose. i once had a free (ipv6) tunnel at hurricane electronic (besides another one for IPv4) but now i use VMs in data centers.

i do not see any ready product to be that flexible. however to me the best ready router system seems to be openwrt, you are not bound to a hardware vendor, get security updates longer than with any commercial product, can 1:1 copy your config to a new device even if the hardware changes and has the possibility to add packages with special features to it.

“openwrt” is IMHO the most flexible ready solution for longtime use. same as “pfsense” is also very worth looking at and has some similarities to openwrt while beeing different.

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i have the same opinion!!

let me explain: no one should have to get the living by actual work. All should get their living from those who have enough of it. And then only when someone wants to, he/she/whatever should do some work but not for a living, only for fun. Those who “have” should be those who give. So “that” is the society that person really wants as she told us very clear (or not???) and i do share this opinion ;-) lets help her together achieving her dreamsociety by diverting her “haves” for free to those who don’t “have” but need. This of course is a service for her on her request, to achieve what she stated to want and that service is for free of course, she does not have to pay for it, as we do not have to live of this service, that would be unhealthy!! everyone should only do the work he/she/whatever wants to do for free after receiving the living for free from those who have ;-)

ff(…ollow me for more)*lol

i have to admit, that my point ‘just don’t do it’ in reality does not garantee to prevent any trouble. it still is possible to be sued for things someone else did.

also one suggestion to think about:

if the seller just sprays some random changes over a book for every sold version, one would have differences in “every” sold version to every other sold version. by blindly changing those parts to something else you could reveal which exact two/three versions you had for diffing.

UPDATE: someone else here had the same thought a bit earlier…

my suggestion to not do it stays the same ;-)

it could be interesting to figure things out how they work, what could be done to prevent or circumvent such prevention, but actually doing it seems risky no matter what.