No, yeah, I get that, I was asking about that “100% CPU usage and 70% GPU usage and if I turn details up I get a slideshow”. Is this at 1440p or are you playing at 1080p?

Edit: actually, I watched some benchmarks and the RX580 should deliver some solid FPS at 1440p so the CPU is the actual bottleneck here. Go first option and that will give you a very big framerate boost

Your monitor is 1440p, are you playing at that resolution?

Haven’t seen this mentioned, but did you make sure to plug the display cable into the GPU and not the MoBo?

edit: nvm, just saw a comment with same suggestion

Nitro+ worth it?

I guess not for that much more. A 10% increase is substantial, and I don’t think the difference in actual performance is enough to justify it; but you also said that your region can get toasty in summer, and the Nitro+ has better cooling which could help. I don’t think the Pulse will get too hot to work, but it may be something to consider!

DDR5

Those are one of the best performance to price ratio, and they’re very inexpensive for what they are (plus full support for AMD overclocking, EXPO I think it’s called); you can also go higher frequency, but prices will go up as well.

cooler

Good call then, AIO will probably perform a bit better with extreme high ambient temps

970

All good, a 970 Evo Plus might be cheaper so why not!

5.0

Yeah, there’s no way gaming will saturate PCIe 5.0 anytime soon, no need to pay premium for specs you won’t benefit from

Happy building and gaming!

About RAM, Trident Z5 NEO @ 6000Mhz seems to be the best price/performance ratio.

About GPU, I’d personally go for a Sapphire as they’re one of the historic AIB for AMD GPUs and I also dig a lot the design of the Nitro+ lol

See if you can save something on the MoBo (by getting a lower trim) and 2x2TB might be a bit overkill for gaming only (ofc it depends on your habits, but I personally don’t have games installed for more than 500-600GB). Also, you picked two PCIe 4.0 NVMEs, so maybe consider a 970 Evo Plus if it’s cheaper than the 980 Pro

About cooler, I’d prefer an old fashioned air cooler simply because it can’t leak lol

Makes sense, unfortunately it’s all a game of balance between CPU and GPU when you have a fixed budget, and a 5800X3D paired with a 7800XT won’t give me 120+ FPS at 3440*1440 (on average, max FPS at 4k is 60, so around 100 FPS at 3440*1440), a 5600X with a 7900XT probably yes (on average, max FPS at 4k is 80, so around 133 FPS at 3440*1440). At this resolution, I feel like investing in a better GPU is the better choice, also for longevity.

Plus, I think it will be easier to upgrade CPU than to upgrade GPU, were I to need it, for example in the next six or eight months: in that time frame I can easily save for a brand new 5800X3D (which is around $300, especially if I can sell the 5600X), while saving for a 7900XT ($900) is a whole different feat, even factoring in a potential sale of the used card.

If I were in the USA I would’ve gotten a 5600X3D because that’s basically a 5800X3D for much less, it’s a shame it’s a MicroCenter exclusive, guess they don’t have enough of them to sell worldwide.

if you can see yourself building a new setup in the next couple of years

I surely hope not haha, I can totally see a motherboard and RAM upgrade, and at that point a CPU upgrade as well, down the line, but I hope I can keep the 7900XT for a bit longer than that! To be quite honest, the amount of newly released AAA games that I’d like to play has been decreasing in the past few years, so I’ve been feeling less inclined to upgrade, and with this new PC I can play 100% of my backlog and also 100% of the yet-to-be-released games I’m looking forward to (though I’ll admit that’s a very short list), so hopefully it will last me a while.

Thanks for the suggestions though!

I’ll keep an eye out for it, thanks!

fitting the gpu

Eh, worst case scenario I can remove the front fan: case specs say 315mm + fan, which is 26mm, so without fan 341mm and it bumps to the chassis.

bogus specs

Yeah, I looked into it a bit more and a I’m now considering a different monitor… so thanks!

Simply because I have a budget that I really can’t stretch further than this! Getting a 7900XT is already going to punch a huge hole into my pockets, and since I’m going to play games at 3440*1440, according to this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81kAorV30Vc) (skip to 10:05 to see the averages) the differences between 5600x and 5800X3D are definitely interesting, especially for some games, but overall, at my target resolution there is a difference between 10% (1440p) and 6% (4k).

If I were to want to close that gap and get a 5800X3D I’d have to go for a 7800XT instead (to not further raise the budget) and at that point I’d be losing much more performance than I’d be missing by getting a 5600x w/ a 7900XT, since, on average, a 7800XT gets 50-60fps at 4k, while a 7900XT gets 60-80fps at 4k. At 4k I’ll get 6% less FPS with the weaker CPU, but I’d get 25%+ less FPS with a weaker GPU!

Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong!

One is about to die, the older 1TB, which is about to be five years old, I got one bad sector on it a month or so ago. It’s all backed up, though, so I dare using it a bit longer

Thanks for the tip, I’ll keep it in mind in case I need to add/change drives!

Yep, just keeping them because they still work, and, even though they are small, I can still repurpose them for my future NAS when I’ll build it

That’s what I bought at the very beginning when I first built my PC. Had to go for a 256GB SATA SSD because of prices (I think I bought it more than five years ago) and since that wasn’t realistically enough, I added a 1TB HDD to get by. When I fibally build my NAS I will get something like 4x4TB at least

Thanks for the reply!

storage

Must have gotten lost in the wall of text, but the storage configuration is unusual because I already have all these drives and I added onto it as I needed more.

I do have a main 1TB NVME, SATA SSD as mass storage is a bit expensive in my country, so I still prefer HDDs, which I plan to bring to a higher total amount of storage as I move towards building my own NAS; at the moment I make do with what I have!

fans

I opted for more fans than usual because it’s a bit hot here! They definitely helped with keeping temps in check!

clearances

All good, already tested in current PC!

Thanks for the reply! Might have gotten lost in the wall of text, but I already have most parts, I’m just upgrading my current PC.

DR4

Good enough for me, hasn’t let me down yet in these years!

GPU

As long as it fits, there shouldn’t be problems, though, right? I can double check the actual space inside the case and take accurate measurements, but even if it’s a very tight fit, I don’t see why I can’t stuff it in. Getting a shorter GPU means ditching Sapphire Nitro + (the 7800XT is just as long) and go for a dual fan model, which I’d rather avoid (noise+cooling concerns)

response time

1ms MPRT, should be enough for non-competitive gaming! If that’s not it, I don’t know what you’re referring to!

storage

Again, might have gotten lost in the wall of text, but I already have all those drives, including a 1TB NVME. The configuration is all over the place because I kept adding onto it as my needs grew. At some point I’ll clean it up haha

Data hoarding haha I know it’s not ideal, and I will build a NAS at some point, but at the moment high-res, high-fps, high-details gaming is a priority!