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The problem with allowing spaces for fascists to exist online is when they start existing in offline groups too. If discussion was the biggest risk then there would be no harm in letting them participate.
The problem with allowing spaces for fascists to exist online is when they start existing in offline groups too. If discussion was the biggest risk then there would be no harm in letting them participate.
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How is it nonsense? Beehaw has decided that our entire instance is unfit for wider consumption. They have labelled as as degenerates and walled off our content to keep people safe. If people are out there sabotaging our image and making things up about my new community where everyone has been extremely positive and kind and supportive then yes i am going to be upset about that.
These divisions that exist weren’t created by me. It was beehaw who quite literally divided us. I’m just annoyed about it, which I have every right to be, because it’s a terrible decision with little thought involved and harms the entire service as a whole. Honestly, at this point, I can’t help but wonder if they’re deliberately sabotaging the platform under the guise of positivity.
I don’t know if I would want to use Bee in future honestly. I’ve been getting “holier than thou” vibes from a lot of bee users and the only time I have felt even slightly uncomfortable is when users are coming here attacking lemmy.world. I have felt very welcomed and invited and respected in this community - until the day that beehaw decided we are undesirables and not welcome and decided they wanted to classify my new cyber home as a pit full of degenerates.
This whole experience is leaving a sour taste in mouth after what was a very positive first day. I made a community started posting content in it and everything. Now, I honestly don’t know if I want to continue.
All you people gaslighting us and acting like we aren’t allowed to be upset or annoyed about this action is only making me like Beehaw less.
I don’t believe you to be honest. I haven’t seen any hostility towards beehaw admins, or any toxicity whatsoever on the fediverse at all, whether lemmy.world or otherwise. You claim that the only thing you see is people being extremely hostile. So where are they?
You know, I keep hearing this, but it’s beehaw people coming here and starting arguments. If it’s not a problem, then why are people getting annoyed? Beehaw is allowed to defederate if they really think so, but we don’t have to pretend like it’s a smart decision. And, at the end of the day, it only hurts them more than anyone else.
Ahh gotcha I follow you now. thanks again.
I’m a bit confused. is lemmy.world not meant for music? From what I gather lemmy.studio is a different instance which means I have to start a new account to make communities within it?
Sure, there’s no issue with that. I think most people agree that Beehaw can run their instance as they see fit and even understand their intention of trying to keep out trolls. We’re just also saying that it’s not the most efficient way to deal with the problem, and mainly it punishes Beehaw users as far as I can see.
Oh sure thing, my mistake. Thanks for the tip!
On the bright side, at least I have drama content to read. Maybe this thing can replace reddit… lol
I think of instances like nations or countries. Every country has its own citizens, so you are citizen of lemmy world, like me. Every country also has its own communities (subreddits). the difference is you can also go see another countries communities. And like countries in real life, countries here can all have their own culture or flavour. At the moment it seems to be still early days so instance/national identity is still developing. But it has a lot of potential.
Maybe that says more about the communities you choose to interact with than lemmy. I notice every link you posted is from kbin, and not lemmy - i’ve never even been to a kbin server myself.