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Sorry @yogthos@lemmy.ml, but I’m with @twinnie@feddit.uk on this one.
He clearly intellectually bested you with his superior, meritocratic, totally sound and valid argument of you being a Russian bot.
Sorry @yogthos@lemmy.ml, but I’m with @twinnie@feddit.uk on this one.
He clearly intellectually bested you with his superior, meritocratic, totally sound and valid argument of you being a Russian bot.
Apparently getting people killed is better than doing everything you can to end end the conflict.
Apparently in the mind of the west, Ukraine and Zelensky in particular it is…
Who could have thought that people that are mass imprisoned (and desperately trying to escape), that are kidnapped on the streets every day and sent to the meatgrinder to their deaths, would have low morale and no willingness to fight for the fascist, anti-Ukrainian Ukrainian government? The article must be Russian propaganda, I have heard from super reliable sources that every Ukrainian is willing to die for their glorious (and totally not Nazi btw) master - Zelensky (except me, apparently I am a coward).
I am sure people from Pokrovsk, that has been turned into a concentration camp (those are words of an ex-colonel of AFU btw), would have really high morale fighting “the enemy”.
I say we cut them off and send these munitions to Ukraine instead.
“Let’s stop supporting one genocide and instead support another”
What twisted world are you people living in?
Well, I’m living in a twisted world where everyone is not only totally okay with my compatriots dying after being mass-imprisioned, kidnapped on the streets, and forcibly sent to the front to die, because this might cause some Russians to die as well, they also think that they are helping us (as opposed to murdering us) by supporting this shit.
WBY?
Ukraine is fighting for itself with support of the population.
What population? That population that is forbidden from leaving the country, afraid to leave homes due to fear of being kidnapped on the streets, and tries to escape the country at any cost? The population that cannot choose their president? The population that cannot form political parties if government does not like it? What population???
Nah, sorry but you can’t paint a picture that he just now started doing it :)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64809777
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lukashenko-calls-kyiv-peace-negotiations-094753810.html
they had the news claiming for days that it was the Russians
Same shit as with a missile that killed two Poles btw. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_missile_explosion_in_Poland
And I even have a link to that https://lemmy.world/post/14352826 :)
People over there got so brainwashed, that they were seriously claiming that Russia is shelling a nuclear power plant on the territory it controlled for more than a year at that time… The thought that “the good guys” were doing it is a heresy for them
Oh no, not the peace negotiations! Think about hundreds of thousands of lives that this will save, it’s terrible! War is peace, or something. /s
On a more serious note - just this morning there was news about the biggest victory of Zelensky’s regime yet - they stopped 40+ people trying to escape Ukraine. Each one of them paid 6-8k dollars for that (it’s a lot of money in Ukraine, for many people it might have been their life savings). “Hopeless situation” for Ukraine is the best news there could be for Ukrainians.
And what part of those “negative things” does not have USA involved? :)
Because in Ukraine we are forbidden from owning guns [ond other weapons], while the ones who are press-ganging people on the streets obviously do have them.
That’s why they are able to purge entire villages. Your only option is to run, or defend yourself with something like a pepper spray…
I would like to hear what exactly is that the people downvoting you are disagreeing with, seems quite precise to me…
I suspected that it might have been sarcasm and still got baited 🤦♂ Well played :)
How could they be so effective at controlling USA politicians and the USA electoral system and the USA Congress and the USA media
It just doesn’t make sense.
Maybe because they don’t control it, and it is propaganda from people within the USA, telling you that you should vote for their party instead of the other party? :)
So your solution is to lets Russia invade and not resist.
My solution is to stop murdering people and let them decide for themselves.
I’m sure nobody will be murdered or end up a gulag. No. People will just defenestrate themselves or die of natural causes with 2 shots to the back of the head. That’s what double action means, right?
Well, if you are so sure in what you’re saying, then there’s definitely no reason to continue kidnapping people and sending them to die, they will all volunteer to fight because of the awful things that you’ve mentioned that await them if Russia wins, right?
Holy moly. It’s as if you didn’t have a slice of russian disinformation, you had the whole pie.
Please quote me saying one thing that is not true. Just one.
And another good guy advocating for murdering innocent people… :/
I know, right?
That damn lemmy.ml echo chamber where people continue parroting this extremist narration that it is not okay to murder people…
Let’s get out of here, and head to something like lemmy.world where we can celebrate hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians getting murdered, cheer for continuation of war and call everyone who disagrees with us fascists!
The entire conflict as seen by the west described in one sentence.
“Yes we turned the country into a mass prison and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians died or got wounded - but more Russians died so it’s a success”.