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  • Compared to other competitive swimmers, yes, he was. 500th ranked in just the USA college system means you’re never getting anywhere close to being a professional swimmer competing at world championships or the olympics. Never. Not even close.

    You really love ignoring everything other than the 500 free.

    Since you brought up the Olympics, I wonder how many of her competitors (other than obviously Douglass) actually made it.

    Incorrect.

    Unless you’re talking about pretty much worthless pool records, I am indeed correct. Since you love calling me incorrect, how about you actually provide some numbers other than an unsubstantiated ranking from a letter written by someone supposedly om behalf of anomymous teammates. She did not set NCAA records, USA records, etc., unlike someone else she competed against.

    Grow up.

    Right back at you, ma’am.


  • Where?

    I literally wrote in the parenthetical which term you used. Are you blind?

    Went from a “bad” mens swimmer to the best womens swimmer while swimming basically the same times as pre-transition. There’s nothing to say that even if Lia didn’t “transition” that he would have improved his times.

    I think I’m done. You’re just repeating conservative talking points without actually thinking about what you’re writing. Lia Thomas was never a bad swimmer. As mentioned, the improvement in her rankings was within normal bounds for three years. You’ve also curiously avoided noticing how the other rankings were below 1st despite her starting at a higher ranking in men’s competitions. Likewise, none of her times have ever blown away the competition. She didn’t set records. The 1st place finish isn’t even in the top 50 all-time for NCAA.

    I feel like I’m talking with my relatives who voted for Trump. Given that you don’t even have the decency to use the correct pronouns, kindly go fuck yourself conservacuck.


  • It’s obvious you don’t actually have a researched opinion since you just used the wrong term for a trans woman (they said trans men, in case they edit it).

    You seem to, once again, be ignoring that on top of the decrease from transitioning, they are still a human being, and thus age and practice like any other human being. From sophomore year to their redshirt senior year, they grew, trained, etc. like any athlete. Expecting them to just drop 15% or whatever from their sophomore time and never improve from that is completely idiotic.


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    The numbers you are using I’ve only seen from that letter made by people complaining about her, frequently posted everywhere by conservative sources. Also, it’s fucking obvious she’d have slower times. That is the entire purpose of requiring trans atheletes to be on hormones for a couple years.

    EDIT: I’ve looked into the 462 number more, and I’m further convinced it’s either made up or not an official ranking (i.e. from some practice run). Also, if you’re gonna pull some random quote, give your source. One of the very first results when I search “lia thomas 462” is the Daily Wire, which does not inspire much confidence in your sources. The other results are a Wikipedia quote from the letter I mentioned, and a random comment on the site for a swimming magazine.


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    She swam for the men’s team 2019-2020 while undergoing hormone therapy. Then there was a year break because of COVID. Then she swam for the women’s team 2021-2022. The difference was over two years.

    EDIT: Actually, the 500th place stat was from 2018-2019, so it was over three years.

    EDIT 2: Also, she went from 554th to 5th. The other two are basically not even worth mentioning since she went from 65th to 1st and 32nd to 8th over three years.

    EDIT 3: Also, regarding your “the same people” bit, a large chunk of the people she’d have competed against would have graduated and been replaced by underclassmen. This is how college works.