Firefox makes up about 90 percent of Mozilla’s revenue, according to Muhlheim, the finance chief for the organization’s for-profit arm — which in turn helps fund the nonprofit Mozilla Foundation. About 85 percent of that revenue comes from its deal with Google, he added.

I fail to understand how they haven’t figured out a way out of this seems to me they’re using all the money they from Google as if there is no tomorrow… Why on earth also if Firefox is so clearly their main product does it seem to not always be at the centre of their attention? I get doing other products but they seem to not be going anywhere. Honestly, to a layman like me it seems they’ve been doing the same stuff as Google without having the massive ad revenue but with the search revenue. Where did the Firefox OS go ? They never followed through like Google did with their Pixels for example. Why?

On cross-examination by the DOJ, Muhlheim conceded that it would be preferable not to rely on one customer for the vast majority of its revenue, regardless of the court’s ruling in this case. And, he agreed, another browser company, Opera, has already managed to make more money from browser ads than it does from search deals. But while that may be a potential pathway to diversifying Firefox’s revenue, he added, scaling up such a business at Firefox may look different, in part because of the privacy-preserving approach it takes to products.

I don’t love that response. What are Opera’s ads like? There are two reasons I use Firefox : opensource and ad blocking… I honestly think Firefox should offer more branded services like their Pocket, VPN or email with thunderbird, why not even a cloud in a continuation of their Firefox Send service? Or just try to ask for donations from time to time with some transparency about the budget… I’d personally love to better understand why there is a corporation and a foundation.

How does Mozilla get money apart from the Google search deal? Are there no other search engines willing to pay to be the (even country specific) default? Also if Google sell Chrome wouldn’t that mean they’d be able to keep the deal? In a sense they are no longer the monopoly?

They are thinking of having the user choose the juridiction. So far their testing is hosted in the EU apparently.

As written in the article

Moz doesn’t contribute financially to Thunderbird’s development, according to Sipes, and whatever revenue the Thunderbird team generates will go straight into furthering its work.

In the article it says they will have no ads and no data mining. The user will pay for the service.

There was the 2008 crash they survived?

There is this showcased at the end of the article.

You’re welcome 😊

Good point not sure. There must be some exceptions because I’m certain there are citizenship requirements in France for some jobs.

So this Mr Ren is the founder? How did they get to that? They’ve got a lot less employee owners than total employees?

I know there’s an app built by a French antipolice group. It’s sends the video to their server for safekeeping. Can’t remember what it’s called.

Maybe they should really consider moving then. If they have trouble recruiting elsewhere can’t they do remote work?

I can see it when clicking in the link. And if I click on the thumbs up it asks me to log in. Muqt be published now I think

Can’t help but notice that all this talk of “the right to self government” is always appended to paragraphs firmly talking about what the US wants and the US does.

I am not a US citizen and there are plenty of instances of the US government not supporting self-determination. I was talking about myself and I would hope most people’s opinion worldwide, not some governement.

The PRC didn’t invade Tawia when they the ROC’s army fled there. Is that because of the USA? Taiwan has been seperate from China for almost eighty years now, that’s a long time!

I doubt they think that. You’re being ridiculous. Taiwan is de facto independent, and there is some push over there to declare independence officially. The ROC is of a different era at the end of the day.

The USA doesn’t officially recognize the ROC but it is US law that consular, travel and business relations between them. Nancy Pelosi travelled to Tawain only a couple years ago.

Anyway, the rights for all people to self-govern themselves should come first over all that.

I wonder what a “softline” is for a member of the Israeli government

I though a lot of their industry was also built on real cheap electricity thanks to them building their factories near dams and the like.

Considering the recent problems Cuba’s facing hopefully this could bring more than just talk.

They need another source of funding, maybe cutting salaries of the Cs would work for one.

I don’t think this is them focussing back on the browser, especially looking at the job listings posted in another comment. It seems to me it’s just a focus on AI, probably in the hope of making money.