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  • About the votes, it might have been because of the opinion I quoted above.

    Na, I don’t think people on lemmy are that averse to criticisms of the UI, features, etc. And by “astroturfed” I don’t mean “my thread was downvoted”. The thread was flooded with hostile comments making personal attacks, etc., most of which completely ignored the substance of the blog post. Virtually the entire thread was filled with comments along the lines of “How dare you attack reddit, you are [insert random ad hominem]”.

    All the comments making personal attacks on me were greatly upvoted, and other reasonable and on-topic comments were downvoted. There was a delay before it occurred, and then all the comments were up/downvoted the same amount, and new ones met the same fate, so there was clearly a group of people who were notified about the thread at some point who then continually monitored it and voted on new comments.

    I guess at the time the mods removed your blog post by mistake, because they didn’t expect personal blogs here.

    I doubt that. But if that’s the case, that’s horrible moderation that they would allow all the personal, off-topic attacks against me and then “remove the post by mistake because they didn’t expect personal blogs”. They should have removed most of the comments in that thread and banned the users.

    I’ve had a better experience with the reddit@lemmy.ml community so far. I’ve seen lots of criticisms of lemmy.ml, and even attempts to [dishonestly] attack the .ml developers. I wonder how much of that is from the same group/type of people who just want to cause problems and make people leave lemmy. I wonder if the reason I experienced it less on the lemmy.ml comm is because those users are banned there, and that’s why they’re spreading FUD about lemmy.ml.


  • I really dislike the bloated UI they’re all using, but it looks like there are solutions on the way.

    I’m wondering, is this still your opinion?

    I’ve gotten used to it and I like that many instances default to a dark mode. I used to use the old.instance UI, but I think I ran into problems with it and ended up just using the standard Lemmy UI.

    Regarding lemmy being complicated, I’ve mostly learned how it works and I definitely think it’s the #1 reddit-alternative at the moment, and the most promising option for the future as well. Along with independent forums of course.

    I also set up a Mastodon account, but unfortunately most people are still using Twitter. I also petitioned the Xenforo developers to join the fediverse, and I like that other forum software like Discourse, etc., are joining the fediverse. I definitely think federation is the future.

    I’ve been thinking about updating that blog post but I’m not sure where to add the updates.



  • I agree about reddit, but unfortunately, I don’t think lemmy is free from astroturfing. Myself and others have noticed that there are many users on lemmy who seem to be purposefully antagonistic towards other lemmy users. The possible reason may be to drive people away from lemmy and hinder its growth.

    I’ve experienced pro-reddit astroturfing on lemmy. I posted this criticism of reddit on the reddit@lemmy.world comm, and it was heavily astroturfed and then deleted by the mod for a bogus reason.

    A year later, someone used that post to attack me while insinuating purely from the title that I was at fault because the reddit admins would never do something like that (despite all the public information to the contrary).

















  • I have the exact same frustration. Reddit has been a complete mess for years. Unfortunately, Lemmy is only slightly better, and still seems to be astroturfed and filled with overconfident, unintelligent people who spread misinformation. I shared the link above on one of the /c/reddit lemmy communities and it was heavily astroturfed and then deleted by a mod for a ridiculous reason.

    I posted in various other communities about a completely different topic and the only intelligent response I received was a PM.

    I’ve blocked close to a hundred “fluff” (low-quality) communities on Lemmy, so my feed is highly curated. But the fluff/low-quality communities vastly outnumber the high-quality ones. One of the problems may simply be that intelligent people are rare, and are not spending their time on sites like Lemmy.

    People keep making threads about this, and speculating that Lemmy might be astroturfed by people who don’t want to see it succeed. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be a viable solution. You would need extremely competent and active moderators, or we have to wait until AI becomes advanced enough to neutrally and accurately moderate.

    This is one reason I opted to move my Reddit communities to a forum instead of Lemmy. The problem with that is small forums don’t show up on search engines. Some forum software teams are joining the fediverse though, so that should help. But not all forums have intelligent people either, so it’s definitely a struggle to find these days.